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Ukraine & Belarus (Belorussia) and their mythical nationalisms Historian 15/06/06(Sat)06:11 No. 14625 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]

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Both Belarussian and Ukrainian nationalism are so misguided. They side with the Western, Latin occupiers (Poland, Lithuanian, Austria-Hungary) and ignore the fact that Belarussians and Ukrainians are part of Rus. They have more in common with the so called "Great Russians" of the Russian Federation than with Westerners.

Why is this? Why do they love their myths so much?

Nationalists lie, and one would be remiss to think that Russian nationalists are immune. But through a purely historical analysis, one can see the holes in the nationalist movements of Ukraine and Belarus. The departure from Rus which is present in both is not only a betrayal of ancestors but a change of identity. Ukrainian and Belarussian nationalism are far more Polish, far more Lithuanian, far more Austrian, than they are Ukrainian and Belarussian.

Ukrainians and Bealrussians are in fact Russians who lived under Western European rule. That is the only difference between them and Muscovy. Why embrace the foreign chains? Why deny one's identity in favor of a foreign force? Why seek to create weak, poor states continually begging for alms from the West? Why not re-unite with the Russian Federation to restore Rus?

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Historian 16/07/26(Tue)06:54 No. 14895

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>>14625
ur saying baltic through balkans isnt latin anglo? lewwwl

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Historian 18/06/18(Mon)16:01 No. 15086

OP is dimwit faggot
https://media.giphy.com/media/8PdhuZdEGFpweLWOzP/giphy.gif

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Historian 23/06/03(Sat)08:37 No. 15657

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Himars stands with Ukraine

More historical nonsense from Manly Men Historian 15/05/21(Thu)13:04 No. 14616 [Reply]

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Found this article about octopus wrestling and eating contests with animals, and I started thinking, can we fill a textbook with historical nonsense done by men trying to be manly? So fare I've turned up the article from above http://statbonus.com/2015/04/06/2-manly-feats-of-idiotic-strength/ and this cracked bit http://www.cracked.com/article_19246_5-manliest-hobbies-youve-never-heard-of.html except that one only has a few "historical" entries.

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Historian 15/05/21(Thu)16:47 No. 14617

>can we fill a textbook with historical nonsense done by men trying to be manly

No lifetime is long enough to write that book, ha!

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Historian 23/06/03(Sat)08:35 No. 15656

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Nothing manlier than afternoon tea.

FINLAND Historian 23/05/08(Mon)11:27 No. 15645 [Reply]

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Finland joins NATO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUxUggOJqsk

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Historian 23/05/08(Mon)11:29 No. 15646

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>>15645
Finland has become the 31st member of the Nato security alliance, doubling the length of member states' borders with Russia.

The Finnish foreign minister handed the accession document to the US secretary of state who declared Finland a member.

Then in bright sunshine in front of Nato's gleaming new headquarters, Finland's white-and-blue flag joined a circle of 30 other flags.

Finland's accession is a setback for Russia's Vladimir Putin.

He had repeatedly complained of Nato's expansion before his full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said by attacking his neighbour, the Russian leader had triggered exactly what he had sought to prevent.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov warned that Russia would be "watching closely" what happens in Finland, describing Nato's enlargement as a "violation of our security and our national interests".

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Historian 23/05/21(Sun)01:34 No. 15651

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>>15645
Russia mad. And they really don't like this international squadron of F16s the Scandies are putting together either.

-General Surovikin May 20, 2023 ‘Russia will deploy all 4 of its Maritime Multirole Fifth Generation Aircraft Sukhoi 57 against the American F-16 in Ukraine"

lol russia can't even get a fucking hypersonic missile past UKR's handful of donated air defenses. Now they're going to send their most asspensive jets and pilots into that same airspace. Life expectancy of a WWII tank op's got nothing on these poor bastards.

Finland I think ur a-ok.

Historian 20/10/25(Sun)19:02 No. 15413 [Reply]

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Where did the idea off angels with wings come from?

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The+Red+Barron 22/05/16(Mon)09:44 No. 15554

There's one (only one) example of an angel in the Bible that is described as having swan's wings. I think it's in Ezekiel, might be Isaiah... All other angels are not described with wings, save maybe a few Revelations ones but I can't recall any.

Ezekiel and Isaiah are very old books, and likely the source for winged figures across the globe. Previously cherubs were depicted as the Heavenly winged creatures, cherubs are some sort of beast with odd features.

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Historian 23/01/23(Mon)21:59 No. 15625

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Ancient Sumerian Lamma

Considered intercessors between the gods and their mortal servants.

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Historian 23/05/17(Wed)13:07 No. 15650

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Knights worship angels

What sort of news wou make for a good episode of "Taiwan Uncensored?& Historian 19/01/02(Wed)20:06 No. 15123 [Reply]

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If you haven't heard before, there's this news channel called "China Uncensored." In it, the host says one thing after another pointing out every possible fault about China, and I had the suspicion you could do a similar thing with all other countries on the globe.

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Historian 19/08/15(Thu)04:21 No. 15199

>>15160
>beta male muses through mail order wife point of view

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Historian 19/08/18(Sun)20:57 No. 15211

Chris Chappell also hosts America Uncovered, which is an american analogue to China Uncensored.

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Historian 23/05/10(Wed)11:58 No. 15648

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>>15123
A topic on how expensive coffee is in CHINA

9/11 the day the illusion of freedom in America was shattered Historian 23/05/10(Wed)08:29 No. 15647 [Reply]

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What is your favorite saga of 9/11?

The Planes saga
The Towers saga
The Collapse saga
The Diseases saga
The Afghan War saga
The Iraq War saga
The ISIS saga

Orlando Figes - Crimean War Historian 14/11/04(Tue)20:33 No. 14455 [Reply]

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/hi/

I want a good overview book of the Crimean War but it doesn't really seem like there is a canon account of this historical period. Figes has written one, but he's a rather modern historian. All the published histories of the Crimean War seem pretty modern.

What do you think of Orlando Figes? Is he a solid, dependable writer? Do you think that he would show a pro-British bias in this book?

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Historian 14/12/21(Sun)08:52 No. 14493

Can confirm, Karamzin is awesome.

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Historian 14/12/31(Wed)08:23 No. 14495

didn't someone, like tolstoy write books that were about it but in a hidden manner because he was in tzarist russia?

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Historian 23/05/05(Fri)11:44 No. 15641

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>>14455
Ukraine wants Crimea back unless Crimea becomes its own country...

Historian 14/04/04(Fri)05:25 No. 14242 [Reply]

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How much money does America and the EU give to second/third world countries to give people jobs in maintaining/developing their forests and such?

Imagine if we gave all our war budget to countries to renovate their shit and regenerate all the things that we are losing

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Historian 14/10/23(Thu)04:32 No. 14451

but everyone loves griffith! or at least used to
he's got a shining city on a hill and doesn't afraid of monsters in the wilderness

nevermind that he's causing the problems half the time, and you know that kind of annoying JFK conspiray quote post? I did some research and found that he wasn't talking about some illuminati conspiracy blah blah blah but rather communist teachers

seriously

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Historian 14/10/23(Thu)08:40 No. 14452

>>14242
Relevant link from an economics thread here. Planet Money gives a handy overview of explaining our "Foreign Aid":

www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/08/08/209878158/egypt-may-not-need-fighter-jets-but-u-s-keeps-sending-them-anyway

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Historian 23/05/05(Fri)11:44 No. 15640

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>>14242
USA and EU get more money from poorer countries than what they donate...

Historian 23/03/22(Wed)19:35 No. 15634 [Reply]

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Are you ready for the future of the Americas?

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Historian 23/04/21(Fri)19:24 No. 15637

>>15634
>California becomes a country with Wyoming and Idaho instead of Oregon and Washington in spite of all logic
>Rather than just becoming an independent country, like it always talks about, Texas joins with Arizona and new Mexico for no apparent reason (which both have way more to do with the Western States) and lets the flag be Arizona's flag despite their unique obsession with their own
>Nunavut and Yukon both (separately) become independent countries despite being clumps of dirty ice that rely entirely on federal support, and despite an easy option to just join the rural and right wing state of Western Canada
I doubt it.

I have a question . 19/09/06(Fri)20:41 No. 15219 [Reply]

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In your opinion, if u.s had sided with germany in ww2, how would the world be today?

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Historian 22/05/21(Sat)23:56 No. 15558

>>15557
Nobody.....

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Historian 22/12/08(Thu)09:09 No. 15613

>>15220
Right

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Historian 23/02/23(Thu)10:13 No. 15631

>>15219
The Man in the High Castle shows this alternate history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIT2JD4BJ9M