>>16018
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>>16022
Ok, I'll just add that lord Yupa and Nausicaa are more or less perfect representations of aligned masculine and aligned feminine archetype. Except Nausicaa doesn't have a man or a king, but she serves her community instead.

Both are strong and super courageous, but it's different. Lord Yupa is portrayed as pretty much the backbone that anyone and everyone can rely on, he can rely only on himself. He's also completely fearless and calculated and stays strong regardless of circumstance, because he has to for the others. He also has his own personal quest. Anyhow, Nausicaa is sweet, feminine, soft relatively speaking and her biggest aspirations is inextricably tied to her community. She allows herself and finds it comforting that she can break down in the presence of Lord Yupa, who remains a rock always. Not a romantic story, but still quite good illustration of the archetypes.

>>16018
>1
Ok so this is a SOMEWHAT based and redpilled take, but its definitely not based and redpilled enough because it did nothing to fully explore the biological and psychological reasons why women are such a way. Nor does it give credence to the ways in which modern men have all too often failed women in the fullest extent, some of that was covered in the OP but not in its fullest sense. Allow me to full you in.

Women can often sense (though in a keen unconscious manner they often do not fully understand) when men are more or less fearful and have an excellent barometer for this in fact, but naturally they understand the nature of this fearlessness or fearfulness as defined from the vantage of its modern expression under the context of the overton-window that they see life through. This is most often in the modern western or modern eastern world a grave distortion of the proper understanding of what fear/fearless really means, and what it meant in a practical and historical sense.

Yet again you did touch upon this somewhat but your post leads me to believe you do are misjudging the manner in which these things really are, or what they really stem from, and what function they hold as a biological, psychological, and even spiritual imperative. An imperative that is again distorted through the lens of a modern overton-window, specifically that of a young modern woman, be they western or eastern.

Women's sense of “what a real man is” is something that is rooted in them deeply in their primordial unconscious because women themselves are natural expressions of the primordial unconscious. They ultimately have the best ability to judge this from a proper sense of what it means biologically, psychologically, and spiritually, but since the very nature of their understanding is unconscious its easily driven to erroneous and ignorant conclusions in their conscious thinking minds by outside stimuli, which have been promoted to the point of being force-fed unto them in various forms of media and by modern social pressures and norms since birth, to convince them of something that looks valid as far as they know it, but in fact is just propaganda and mind control that has been promoted unto them.

This mind control and propaganda is tailored in such a manner that it fits like a glove with the genuine primordial unconscious intuitive wisdom of women, and it rots the core of it, so as to turn it into the inverse of itself. This process happens slowly and evolves over multiple generations, but we are seeing the fruits of it now in many ways. Its quite literally a Kabballistic Sephiroth and Qlippoth situation.

In the loosest sense you are describing how in post-modernism women become “inverted” by being implanted with incorrect and inaccurate hypnotic suggestions, which by their very nature must be grafted onto the genuine truth and understanding that is innate to them as women. If the hypnotic suggestions are not dove-tailed to the innate primordial reality then they are not going to pass by unnoticed, are they? Both women and men are guilty of propagating this type of garbage in themselves and one another. 99% of people participating in this do so fully unconsciously, but 1% are aware of the manner in which it functions and to what end and drive this towards highly specific goals, some of which we will discuss here.

Its also worth mentioning that you are dead wrong that all men look fearless to women in comparison to all women. Whether it be in an ingenuine distorted sense of how they define and calculate the value thereof, or if it be in a genuine psychological/biological primordial sense, in either case this is simply not true. Many modern men appear either rightly or wrongly completely fearful, and often even consumed by fear to women, and this makes them repulsive to them, as it should since to women it is a biological and psychological necessity that a man be fully dominant and fully confident in terms of his own life and thus dealing with the lives of others if that man is to be deemed safe to give up yourself to which is the way in which women see being fully commuted in a serious relationship. Their must be a sense of “parental security” which the woman garners from the man in order for the relationship to be effective, and if this is not achieved or if it is not maintained the relationship immediately collapses.

Lest that be the case women have zero sense of security trusting themselves with such a man. When a women gives herself up to a man to be a in a relationship with him in a serious manner, she has to do so on the basis of full trust, and she can not have full trust if her internal unconscious barometer is telling her the man is not fully confident and dominant, because how can the man be expected to keep her safe as the “child” she is (women's childlike nature is a whole nother bag of redpills for another time) lest he can already demonstrate he is fully dominant and confident in himself and his approach to dealing with life?

Women see men as a necessary security in this regard, where as men often see the idea of a serious relationship with women as merely just a highly developed form of spiritual gratification, not as a sense of needed and irreplaceable security. Pay careful attention, and notice if you will, how the overton window has been shifted for men greatly in this exact regard though, to remove their innate masculinity and make them highly effeminate by creating this sense in them (usually force fed unto them from early youth onward) that they must feel “less than a man” if they are unable to secure and maintain a relationship with a woman. However when we check under the hood we notice almost immediately that men feeling such a way is the most repulsive thing possible to women, and automatically demonstrates to them that such a man lacks critically in dominance and confidence over himself or the very nature of life generally.

This is the other side of the hypnotic propaganda campaign to make certain that erroneous convictions are built up in men that once held onto for life makes them certain to fester forever, because men by nature never were properly to be understood in terms of their genuine masculinity in terms of whether they had wives or not, and that is not the root of what gives a man a sense of security or satisfaction ultimately in life. Yet again as women correctly innately know, what gives men satisfaction and security in life is the same exact thing that gives them satisfaction and security in men, that being a proper sense of dominance and confidence in the face of life itself.

And yet again, you are incorrect entirely to deduce this happens sheerly on the basis of their standing in the group, or their dominance therein. It has moreso to do with a mans standing within himself, something women are capable to deduce much more readily then men are if they are properly attuned to their primordial femininity, which in this case must not be being filtered through a highly distorted overton-window.

It is more accurate to state that women are unconscious readers (at worst entirely incorrect, yet at best entirely accurate) of how dominant men are within themselves, and they recognize ultimately (albeit yet again in most cases utterly unconsciously) that the dominance a man has over himself is reflected by way of the nature of his relationships, which is where the issue of a mans standing in a group comes in.

Your post is speaking specifically to the most ignorant, the most post-modern, the most “young, dumb, and full of cum” type of woman, and even that in only a half correct manner. Presumably this is because you are posting from the vantage of being a young man who has to deal with all of this as a young man does and you are still trying to grasp the little trappings within the male/female binary.

>>16024
>2
Anon I am not a young man anymore, but an old man, and I hope that for all the value that posts like yours brought into my life when I was young (which can not be understated, such things directly led me to understanding that which I share with you now) that you likewise see the value in my post as helping to correct and properly flesh-out what it is that your observing and commenting on here.

Women are never satisfied without men, no matter what they claim. Its a fact that the best of men are capable to live fully relished and satisfied lives without having any real relationships with women, but it is the polar opposite when it comes to how women feel about men. Of course many of them will deny this because they have been convinced by hypnotic suggestion that it is not the case and thus believe that whatever security and satisfaction and gratification they get from leading masculine oriented lives must be the ceiling of the possible security, satisfaction, and gratification they are capable to feel. Thus the process goes almost entirely unnoticed, and you can not argue to them otherwise.

Women need as a biological and psychological imperative to be in what they understand -albeit unconsciously- as a productive and healthy relationship with a man, and no woman can be mentally healthy when she is fully grown without being satisfied in such a way. This having been the case since the dawn of time women have evolved to take on a nature which is a reflection of this innate drive, because without its fulfillment a woman is left to become absolutely wretched and miserable, often full of sadness, anger, hatred, and all the rest of it.

This is where the drive to promote the masculinity of women comes in, by way of propaganda and brain washing, because it was determined some long time ago that to give women this conviction and to raise them in it since youth was a key to absolutely destroying their very womanhood. It was also the key to making sure they fester eternally, because no matter how much a woman is able to make herself masculine and satisfy herself via a masculine approach to life, even if she is queen of the world in such a regard, she will be wretched unto herself in the privacy of her own mind and not satisfied in any empirical manner.

God bless you anon. These threads do really help people when used in the right ways. I can tell that you posted this from a loving heart, and that is why I took the time to give such an extensive reply.

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;;; whoopsie it seems the first part of my post is gone somewhere ;;;

I'm typing on my phone, so I will not edit this text. Hopefully it's high quality enough to read, perhaps even take something from, perhaps even engage. I didn't address some of the interesting ideas, but if the discussion is alive we'll get at the core of it one way or another, it's hard to store your entire message in my RAM anyhow.

>you are incorrect entirely to deduce this happens sheerly on the basis of their standing in the group
Again, sorry, my OP was extremely low effort, I don't know which part you are referring to, but if by "this happens" you mean women's recognition of masculinity, actually the social standing and dominance does play a significant role nowadays I would say. If you mean actual masculinity and innate confidence of a man - obv that has nothing to do with it. I know that women's intuitions are pretty good in that regard, but as you yourself admitted, they have been heavily hijacked and distorted. That's why I'm saying their judgment is often erroneous nowadays. And realize highly on relatively arbitrary factors like social dominance. The whole society is obviously pretty sick, so their compass is just not pointing North. It's a good compass, but it's not working in the current environment.

I do see value in your musings old man. Thank you for taking the time to take me seriously.

>Women are never satisfied without men, no matter what they claim. Its a fact that the best of men are capable to live fully relished and satisfied lives without having any real relationships with women, but it is the polar opposite when it comes to how women feel about men.
Yes I see this logic myself (to an extent). My logic for it is that we as men are immersed in the divine feminine. The whole universe is our woman. That is what adventure is. Our eternal love affair. Woman is just a symbol of that. However for women there are only two places that they can find masculinity in, which is either 1. outsourcing it in men for example or 2. (and this is why I said I agree to an extent) finding that same level of masculinity and confidence within their own heart which I think their biology makes much less readily available than for most men. Something about our species decides or decided that it's the men that are supposed to carry most of the adventure spirit in our little cradle of consciousness. HOWEVER - obv both men and women have it in themselves to access both archetypes. So while I agree that the woman's archetype will never be satisfied without a man, I also don't agree, because a biological individual woman is not the feminine archetype, she's just a being - point blank period.

Trust me, I can see very clearly how it's not working for women to try to lead a masculine life. And I think the reason for that is mostly that they're not really doing it authentically, not because they are inherently incapable of it. It's there predispositions. Biologically culturally and so on. They are doing it more for the show than for themselves, that's why he doesn't work, that's why it cannot work. I think for a lot of women it's really hard to connect with their heart authentically in terms of allowing it to lead them. They don't have the sense of humor nor the sense of adventure that comes easily and naturally to a lot of men. And the curiosity... Anyhow, I guess that's a bit of a separate discussion.

I think a woman with purity in her and perhaps a lack of outside influences, can live a satisfying life. Think of the virgin oracles. I think they are just much more receptive for and of contamination. Much more easily swayed. Much less capable of listening to what's true inside of them. Which has understandable and logical biological reasons behind it, but I'm just remarking. It's not a bad thing, it's just a real reality that many men cannot relate to. And even if allowed purity of mind and environment, obv their life will be very different from a man's life due to different things they're connected to and still being dependent. But anyhow, I think I made my point to some extent.

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The original post doesn't really reflect my approach towards romantic relationships, it was just a rant that was somewhat reflective of how I see the current swamp around me. I'm not really interested in the current romantic/sexual conventions more or less at all. So much so that I don't even care if I get pussy. Not to mention I have as much free tomboy girls as in the OP as Genghis Khan never dreamed of and can relieve the tension if I have to. Plus 2D art actually has more heart than most women I meet, so another reason I'm not hyper interested, but mostly because I am a schizoid and even men mostly don't interest me, there's no way in the world I'm gonna be jumping through a bunch of social hoops just to get some pussy and not even be able to get an actual friend in the process. Like wtf. Waste of time. I'd rather pay an escort, but I don't like that idea either for too many reasons to bother mentioning here. Anyhow I don't completely discount the possibility of a real world woman being romantic partner, but I have 2 distinct ways in which I'd engage that idea if it did seem to be feasible with someone.

One is just based on raw intuitive, eye contact and carnal connection, which bypasses a lot of bullshit, but still no real interest in her mind besides the present moment.
Or two which is more complicated to explain but unbelievably unlikely. But basically where I'm just inspired by the person. So think about - friendship, but with a woman. So if sexuality happens or is involved - cool, but it's not like exclusive or anything, like friends are not exclusive. But yeah, I don't know at which point I'd be willing to have children with her. But definitely only at the point I consider her an actual friend. And so here again you can see that my prerequisite is equality. Which once established, yeah I can treat her like 'little bro' and so on, but the idea of fathering her would ONLY happen if I know she'd do the same for me. So it's not pure masculine feminine archetype relationship. My idea of romance is - we are two individuals and I agree to play a certain role (well, first of all, I care about your heart and your adventure spirit which is the same thing more than ANYTHING, so to hell with sexuality, idgaf) and I agree with you playing the role of the horizontal, the passive, the supportive, the sweet and the feminine, but only to the extent that is natural and relevant which will organize itself based on each of our strengths and predispositions, no one wants or tries to dominate anything, the most confident, competent, capable and curious within a specific scenario is the one that leads in that scenario and I agree to generally be the one to take the reins overall. So, yeah, that's my idea of romance at the moment. Obv I don't have much hopes for it, but I'm definitely not torn apart by that for reasons expressed above. As for only doing ot for the raw data of bodily connection and let's call it near telepathic connection through eye contact - I find that pretty fascinating and I love how you don't have to think about anything and can just enjoy the moment, so I wouldn't mind playing a little bit more with that in this lifetime. Not to mention most likely all the sex in her life up to that point would have been insanely boring. Some reeducation may be in order, but again - only if she keeps an open mind and otherwise doesn't nag me with her personality, is willing to explore the raw thing and can be trusted to enter my life to any extent in the first place. A lot of people are liars and just straight up psychotic with no level of morals especially some of the more inflicted women and sometimes fellas you may really be surprised what comes out if you allow them to think that any idea of you owing them anything is allowed to take root (even if you've been only giving all along). So yeah, crazy chicks can be interesting, but stay a way from the ones completely detached from morals or a sense of what's fair or respectful.

Ok, but yeah, that's while still a rant - a bit of a better representation of where I currently stand in terms of my understanding of male and female nature and romantic relationships and so on.
I actually pity women, because I think they got dealt the worse hand (at least in the way society currently is, I don't think it's in our nature as humans to be sick and distorted), but it's hard to express that empathy or kindness when the dog you'd like to feed is so inclined to bite you in return, like fuck y'all I don't even give too many fucks about the entire society, male or female, y'all can go fuck yourselves. And I'm just saying this, I'm not sociopathic or psychopathic. I'm schizoid. Autistic schizoid. I do have a lot of love, but I will not love at my own expense. Good luck y'all.

>>16027
>>16028
Screenshotting to read later and will likely reply tomorrow. Thank you for this thread again.

>>16027
>if by this happens you mean….
A significant role, yes, but like I already explained, that significant role it plays stems from women recognizing that often how men are within themselves is reflected in how they are with one another, likewise how they are with women. The point I was trying to make is that ultimately many men express social confidence and dominance of a highly developed nature by being socially dismissive to a significant degree, not avoidant, but literally dismissive. In this instance the men express that they are aware and comfortable with the notion that ladder climbing and branch swinging in society is ultimately pathetic and effeminate. As in they do not pander themselves to the idea that popularity and sway over others, or being some sort of trend-setter, are by nature bonafide true expressions of masculinity. Often we find that men who are such things are the most effeminate of all in this day and age. Any woman who does not have goyslop brain will know this, at least innately. Those that do have goyslop brain will absolutely as you correctly said judge off how popular and how influential the men are in the greater group, but yet again, this is not due to innate womanhood, but due to a goyslop conception of life.

>The whole universe is our woman.
Your winning son. My God I am so proud. Your actually winning now son. This conversation is about to go into max-turbo overdrive anon.

>Or finding that same level of masculinity in…..
Bingo. Fucking bingo anon. And THAT is precisely the scam that has been promoted unto them since birth in the modern age, because ultimately there is actually no such thing as women wheedling out masculinity from within themselves in the way in which they have been led to attempt to. Many women spend their entire lives in the pursuit of it, and not a single one of them has ever achieved it to the point of their own self satisfaction. Women are ushered into a conception of themselves where they hunt after this but in reality its a friggin chimera, and no woman who ever lived truly found it.

You need to seriously expand your research in regard to archetypes and start exploring the anima and animus of Carl Jung, the same concept as also paralleled in the Kabbalistic Ruach and Nephesch. Instead of typing out a correction and full explanation of what your saying regarding the archetypical nature of the sexes, instead I will usher you to the more fruitful approach which is to request that you research these subjects extensively for yourself.

>they are not doing it authentically
Because they are biologically, psychologically, and spiritually incapable to, on top of that the entire edifice of what they conceive as being masculine (from the vantage of the post-modern overton window that 95% of people look through male or female) is a complete farce. The only thing they have gotten right in this regard is that men do not innately need women in the sense that women innately need men and women are now trying to mimic this, and everyone is becoming wretched and miserable in the process.

All references you have made to instances where women historically lived masculine lives effectively are the exceptions to the rule anon. Notable and important ones, as all exceptions to the rules are, but ultimately they are the extreme outliers.

>>16028
This post verified beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are speaking from the vantage of being young dumb and full of cum and having the mind state of such. There is nothing wrong with this because its only natural in fact necessary in the course of a humans development, both psychologically and physically as well as spiritually.

Anon, you will never ever find the things you described desiring unless you experience them as a miracle. It is truly that rare and unlikely. Anyone who can actually attain and maintain what you described is exceedingly blessed, and as such you should never allow those desires to take root in you as something that you see as being important.

If any woman, dumb or not, brainwashed or not, sees you expressing that attitude and holding those intentions she will run for the hills, because that is not even what the most picture perfect of women in this world want. Your dream wife would never even dream of having that type of a relationship with you, because even the best women need a man who is going to “wear the pants” and “bring home the bacon” in the most literally physical and spiritual sense of it. Your saying you want equality? Time to grow up and realize there is no such thing, nor do women or men actually want their to be, because if their was we would cave in on ourselves utterly as a species, kinda like what we are starting to see right now as we speak.

The current state of our society is a reflection of all of us guys (myself included here) growing up believing and holding near and dear to ourselves exactly to a T what you poignantly expressed, but in the end we all learned (or did not learn) that it never ever ever works, except for maybe .0000000001% of people. You can not treat people like they fall into that small fringe category, although our autism encourages us to, and frankly you can not even treat yourself like you fall into it, because that conception was built up in you just like it was in me and tons of people when we were young as a part of a propaganda and brainwashing campaign.

You feeling that way is actually highly effeminate anon, because its removing what makes you innately masculine, and its also removing what makes women innately feminine, and women will sense this unconsciously and be driven away quickly by it. Trust me, I went through literally the same exact thing, and even was involved in a serious committed on and off relationship for years that operated under such a guise. A relationship that was being built up into a marriage before I decided it had to be broken off at the last minute, and that was one of the best and most important and difficult decisions I ever made in my life thus far. That relationship nearly destroyed my entire life and the entire life of my ex-girlfriend and even others around us in our friend group. I have also had the privilege of a ton of experiences with close friends who I lived with for years and years (all the way from age 14 to my very late 20s) go through the same exact things with girls (and by extension with themselves), and in all instances without exception the results were exactly the same. Absolute life threatening crisis and disaster. In some instances people ended up dying as a result. In other instances people ended up going permanently insane as a result to the point where they are now in their mid 30s and can not function whatsoever and have to be nursed as babies by their families. In other instances it drove people to rock bottom depression and anxiety, coupled with alcoholism and severe physical drug addiction. The most normal of these people ended up becoming hyper effeminate and is now riding the pussy-carousel STILL when they are nearly 35, pretending to love young girls and having relationships with anyone who is open to it just so they can get a nut, because as they conceded they have become addicted to pussy, and thus I am of the opinion now that they are a pussy.

That attitude never works, and I warn you seriously, you need to get rid of it right now. You need to stop dwelling in those fantasies and believing they have any value to you, because they were set up for you to believe by other people who want you to believe them so they will ultimately destroy you and those around you. Those fantasies are not innate in you anon, they are learned behaviors and thought patterns. The innate truth in you is as you already expressed about understanding life and creation itself as the divine feminine, knowing that this is within you and without you, and then not only knowing it as such but treating it as such and garnering full satisfaction from it as such.

That is how I found peace and joy in my life.

You stay blessed kid, for the love of God you stay blessed. You can do this. You have real knowledge.

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>Anon, you will never ever find the things you described desiring unless you experience them as a miracle. It is truly that rare and unlikely.
Um I understand that if you mean the second option. Truly, yes, insanely unlikely. But raw attraction? C-mon, there's plenty of horny girls without too many thoughts in their heads. Now not all of their raw current moment look I will find interesting or attractive but at least some or at least on psychedelics. I mean I already experienced this before, this is totally possible and real so long as I am still convinced that it's worth my time which is not that much. And I wouldn't feel like I used someone either, cause the contract was only ever exploring what the fuck is up in the present moment and if anything was me giving gifts to her. My only worry is if she didn't appreciate that in the end, reared her ego into the whole thing and decided to stick to me lol, but sweet girls exist and would respect my wish for peace and disinterest in her egoic life.

Yeah, I'm very vaguely familiar with the two Jungian archetypes but I will definitely have to refresh my memory. But the thing is, I'm not really reading anything, I find that my own language is enough for me to develop good enough explanations for most things. I love young, but yeah, maybe I'll read a little bit on the two archetypes you mentioned. Other than that I don't really read except my own shit LOL.

I'm not saying I want equality 100%, just a kind of affirmation that if the roles were reversed, she actually WOULD take care of me. I realize this is not any woman's romantic fantasy at this point. However even women are capable of friendship and genuine things. So you don't have to approach it from sexuality or romance. If she's into spirituality and just like being a real person and she's interested in who she herself is, I don't mind that, I don't need to include sexuality in it. It's an afterthought for me. Now I would be willing to play the game. For sure, but I need to know that there's something real there. That I'm not just taking care of a child. That rather than her being my child, she is my lil bro. Young, naive, lacking in various resources abilities and better judgment, but with a heart that is equal to or even greater than mine. A fantasy? Sure. Impossible? No. You see the difference is that little bro will carry the big bro down from the mountain when he passes out cold. That's all I want to know. That there's something real there rather than just a meaningless cosmic play. And the I realized that the real thing is more often found in men, however women are certainly not incapable of it. Especially if they are mentally ill or otherwise stricken by the peculiarity of all of this and for one reason or another curious about themselves. Of course she's not going to be like the man, but she too has a beating fucking heart. As I said, I'm not necessarily framing this as a romantic relationship, I'm just exploring the circumstances in which romantic relationships could exist. Even if that's not the point of the relationship. And I'm not completely opposed to the idea of taking care of a child, but for obvious reasons that's less exciting. I'd much rather have a lil bro type situation. Unless somehow I believe that I can raise her up closer to my level, in which case there's something to look forward to and otherwise she's bringing a lot of pleasure fun and creativity into my life. Now, this too is quite unlikely relative to just the raw thing. Which I think is very simple. And not that unlikely at all. I'm not necessarily motivated enough to go seek it out, but I do mingle with people sometimes. And I'm reasonably attractive. But I know how to engage her body and what to look for in the eyes. Could use a bit more muscle, but that's easy af.

When I'm speaking of equality, I'm obviously not speaking about homogeneity, but rather about the basic idea of friendship. Which is based on good faith on the behalf of both parties and a desire to play, create or explore. A basic male to male friendship. Platonic friendship. That's what I mean when I say equality. That is not necessarily mutually exclusive with sexuality. The reason being that our consciousness has many levels simultaneously active and overlapping. You can be non equals on one level and simultaneously equals on another level. Yes, sexuality is inherently non-equal. The higher into the chackras you go and by the time you reach heart - it's no longer non-equal. You could say it's no longer sexuality. But everything is an extension of everything else. So that's the open end of sexuality. It's basically friendship. And so then you go into the throat and third eye chakra which goes creativity / ecstasy into all the other good stuff, but it's not necessarily completely separate from sexuality. Even as it's no longer what would be traditionally recognized as such. I'm sorry if these terms are confusing or unfamiliar. And I'm using mostly my own invented language, so I'm sorry if I'm not making any sense.

>because as they conceded they have become addicted to pussy, and thus I am of the opinion now that they are a pussy.
LoL

>That attitude never works
Well if you mean my first option, this is not the same option that you described in your friend. I would literally not engage my cognition, not engage my ego at all. Well pretty much not at all. So that's the difference there.
>You need to stop dwelling in those fantasies and believing they have any value to you
By this point I expressed at least three fantasies. One is definitely not crazy unlikely which was the telepathic connection (completely nonverbal and non-cognizant) plus physical connection. the other was taking care of a child (the supposed proper way to carry out romantic relationships) and the one that I'm actually much more interested which is the little bro type fantasy, which I understand is extremely unlikely. I haven't even found a male friend worthy of my attention, so there you go, complete pipe dream. Now the child thing is definitely not improbable, the biggest problem with it is my own willingness and interest. Maybe if I see it as a platform for something greater and more intriguing. And I don't know if some person along the way I find peculiarly intriguing beautiful or whatever, not that that would satisfy the conditions, but I'm saying it might push me over the edge of being interested enough to pursue.

Haha, thanks, man, you stay blessed as well. Glad to read what you wrote, it seems you've seen some shit haha.

Nah, but definitely, dude, I'm absolutely not chasing pussy or being obsessed about romantic relationships of any form. I'm definitely interested in the big mamma with cosmos for a womb and mystery for pussy, no girl will ever divert my attention from that, but see no harm in playing with the miniaturized doll representation of it either so long as she's already on my way and perhaps even herself is suddenly self aware enough to realize she want to gently rape this gaping void of a woman/girl herself. Sounds like an adventure to me. Who doesn't like a bit of company on a good venture? Ridiculous. Nah but the raw thing is totally plausible dude. So long as I hold on to my decaying body. Maybe even manage to heal and align for some fast tricks. But that has more to do with my relationship with the cosmic mistress than anything else, so it goes full circle again and that's all that ever mattered. For now. I'm definitely young and I'm dumb. And I am horny af but it doesn't bother me whatsoever so far as I'm able to tell, if anything I find it hilarious especially in social settings.

>>16034
>But raw attraction?
No, I meant the equality fantasy relationship. Raw attraction is a given unless your an absolute fool, and even then you might get more pussy. Raw attraction is super hot, but personally I do not believe in entertaining it at this point in my life. There is always risk involved in approaching women in these ways because women act like sluts in order to express unconscious masculinity, that is why most slutty women are dangerous. I know this sounds insane to any young man, but I mean that seriously, slutty women are immature and masculine in all the wrong ways, and I have seen that transition into life threatening dangers in situations that started in the most casual of ways. Don’t believe me? You will find out one day, and you will realize that more men have these types of experiences than you previously imagined. If you find this in a way that “works” for you feel free to go for it, but I have found in my life that even when that is the case it functions as no better than getting high off peoples bodies and losing a lot of your energy in the mix. When your young you do not notice that aspect of it, or the greater implication of how its psychological pull when lowered to the point of being almost a sort of recreation and relaxed stimulation (sex is “interesting” because the process of it is all speedy but when you cum and slightly after that its like an opiate) is actually just another aspect of our dogshit modern society that never existed historically.

Historically anon, men blasted nuts hard daily in womens pussies. And that energy exchange without any pills or prophylactics was of tremendous spiritual value. But sex that is practiced without that, and when you take the core of your energy as a man and just simply give it away you because a pussy. And when women try to give themselves away by being slutty so they can “act like a man” they because a bunch of dicks. LOL

>if she's into spirituality and just like being a real person and she's interested in who she herself is, I don't mind that, I don't need to include sexuality in it. It's an afterthought for me.
Sir, it does not matter one iota, because its never going to be seen that way unless you get a miracle woman. These types of women do exist, but they are so rare and hard to attain its not even funny. And its not even a simple matter of being rich or being a chad when it comes to something this rare its simply just a matter of being blessed. In 99.999% of cases your gonna find women will never tolerate sexuality as an after thought because one the things they crave in men most is direct impregnation. In my opinion women crave this more than men do because they see it as being not an option because historically more women get fucked than men fuck women, and thus women have a core primordial thing in them that demands to fulfill their womanhood which can only happen if they fuck first. Im not sure if I can prove by demonstration that women demand sex from men more than men do from women, because I do not think society provides me with enough masculine men to prove that this was the case historically, men today are addicted to pussy because they are feminized and docile.

>And I'm not completely opposed to the idea of taking care of a child, but for obvious reasons that's less exciting. I'd much rather have a lil bro type situation.
Hear that ringing anon? Your alarm is going off. Its time to wake the fuck up. This attitude will drive women away from you in droves. I have seen women resent their boyfriends so much for trying to treat them the way you described they tortured and beat them mentally and physically for years. I even experienced this to myself to a lesser degree.

>When I'm speaking of equality, I'm obviously not speaking about homogeneity, but rather about the basic idea of friendship. Which is based on good faith on the behalf of both parties and a desire to play, create or explore. A basic male to male friendship. Platonic friendship. That's what I mean when I say equality. That is not necessarily mutually exclusive with sexuality.
Women will fart on you and walk away if you attempt to approach them in this guise. I do not mean they will walk away sexually. I mean they will walk away and not speak to you at all. Heaven fucking forbid you should be so dumb as to become a fucking orbiter, please dear God anon I know your better than that and im not even going to entertain the thought you could possibly do such a thing, I expect better of you. If you are doing this to a woman who is playing along with it, your unknowingly being an orbiter who the girls believes is a usable idiot for some reason while they sleep with other dudes. This will ruin your standing with other women in a big way if they notice you doing it too.

>I'm sorry if these terms are confusing or unfamiliar.
They are not either. I am not read specifically on chakras I admit because I only do advanced study and practice of western systems, but I am knowledgeable on the concept.

>And I'm using mostly my own invented language, so I'm sorry if I'm not making any sense.
You lost me, what part did you invent?

>your whole last paragraph
You are so much more hip than me when I was young man. I wish I grew up feeling about these things the way you do. There is definitely a rare beauty in that, congratulations for cracking into it because you might be too young to realize how rare it really is just yet.

It is super hot to just screw with women over sheer attraction, but it seems like every story I ever heard about people who did that, including all of my personal stories when I did ended up in a pickle. The reason it doesn’t work is because ultimately buddy, women are full of fucking shit when they act like they can do that and not develop some malignant outgrowth from the constant defective pair-bonding that changes their and even mens whole psychology for the worse. Look into the detriments of defective pair-bonding and how they correspond with peoples body count. We are not necessarily made to be monogamous naturally, I do not believe there is any proof of that, but we are definitely designed to be able to satisfy the opposite sex in the fullest in our ability to raise a child to the point where its capable to fend for itself as an adult, and that requires a deep healthy relationship between a man and a woman for about 20 years. When this is not the case...well, you will find out yourself how rocky the road really gets.

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>I know this sounds insane to any young man, but I mean that seriously, slutty women are immature and masculine in all the wrong ways, and I have seen that transition into life threatening dangers in situations that started in the most casual of ways. Don’t believe me?
Oh, no, I do believe you. Lack of understanding of basic respect in general is all too prevalent nowadays, people can't tell anything apart. But I certainly understand how that can be compounded in people who think of themselves as "empowered women" whose power is basically deception, narrative control and manipulation. It's a strange world we live in. It is interesting.

>But sex that is practiced without that, and when you take the core of your energy as a man and just simply give it away you *become* a pussy
Yeah, that's a very valid point. Well, I'd like to think that there is something deeper happening if it's not just mindless pleasure seeking. I mean just because I'm not interested necessarily in engaging her ego, I can still engage her on some meaningful level. And it doesn't have to be necessarily just slutty women, I don't really particularly even care that much about her motives or rationale. Maybe naively, but I believe we can bypass that in the raw currency of the present moment. And maybe I can remind her a little bit of who she actually is. And a brief encounter is not necessarily a meaningless encounter. Also I'm not chasing an orgasm. Sometimes I just like giving pleasure. On top of that exploring someone that might be really boring on the ego level, but quite interesting in other ways. Even if we're all distorted and misaligned, you know, bits and pieces of our real nature shine through sometimes. So maybe there's a way to catch that.
As for motives again. I'd like to believe that I can make her forget her original motives, the sluttiness only helps in that there wouldn't be preconceived barriers and hoops to jump through. It's good if she doesn't know what she's doing with her life in that sense. Anyhow, I'm not chasing this. Just something that I would allow. Because I really only ever had one woman. Wouldn't mind exploring a few more in this lifetime even if only in this relatively limited way.
By the way, I was completely blue pilled at that time. She still obsessed about me in the end because our relationship was short and I pulled back once I got to know her, but the sex was great because I really fucking loved her at the time. That's rare. And would be much harder for me to get into like that right now. Borderline impossible.
The illusion of how I thought she/females looked at it is shattered. She wasn't the one who shattered it, rather I connected the dots in retrospect in terms of all of the experiences and observations especially in my early life after I started thinking through what the redpill teaches about female sexuality. With her it was more like just realizing that she's a normal person, which was a turn off and a coming down to reality moment. On top of that, I really make much more of a distinction now between a person's ego and my attraction to them. So yeah.

>In 99.999% of cases your gonna find women will never tolerate sexuality as an after thought because one the things they crave in men most is direct impregnation
Well maybe she can if I make it abundantly clear from the start that nothing of sexual nature interests me in terms of our relationship. So that's something real and authentic can develop if it actually can.
And maybe she would still crave it, but IDK, somehow I could dissuade her from putting fuel into that fantasy and instead to look for any actual relevance in terms of maintaining a connection without acknowledging any prospects of sexuality. Is that really practically impossible? Idk. I guess I'm way too picky with people for it to happen and especially on the right end of the bell curve it's almost exclusively men, but who knows. I guess I do think that it's not impossible or entirely improbable.

>This attitude will drive women away from you in droves.
Wait, which one? Treating her as a child or as lil bro? Because if you're meaning the child, that's actually the only way it can really work nowadays. They want to be treated as children. If you mean bro, yes I understand, sir.
But you see, I would not tolerate any torturing of any kind, because I would not tolerate that from little bro either. I mean, I would not tolerate that from a friend. So that would be a reality check for them. Yes, the relationship would likely dissolve, but not because it is dysfunctional, it would dissolve because I would quickly lose interest when I see that there's not much there in terms of heart in what I imagined to be my little bro. Not because her female fantasy is not satisfied. Because I literally lose interest in her as a person. Because all she ever cared about was mental masturbation not something of actual interest. But I would see that way before anything serious really begins to happen. I'm definitely not easily sold on this fantasy. AT ALL. If anything I'm highly suspicious of the possibility even if it presents itself on paper. It's just that I'm not denying it may be possible. And again, I'm not actively looking for it, so for all intents and purposes, I just really don't give a fuck. This is a mental exercise.

>who the girls believes is a usable idiot
lol, no sir I am not this naive. I was just explaining the settings and conditions to what I wanted to convey after. It's against my nature to be an asshole, but for all they know I am purely that. If I want to be kind I'll be that to a man. I know the insane entitlement commonly entertained. So even if I'm not interested in them sexually whatsoever which is 99% of women - I will do my best to teeter on the line of being rude and being completely/fully respectful so that at the end of the day they may think anon was even nice perhaps, because I ACTUALLY WAS, I just wasn't particularly interested in giving away free cookies. Not to women. LOL. I mean I'll stop if you're stranded on the side of the road and change your tire, but I'll do that for the global harmony, not for you. I'm not literally an asshole, but if you try anything - you'll very soon find out I don't play these games. Regardless hot or not. Because apparently even fugly bitches think they can pull their bag of tricks on you facepalm.png

>You lost me, what part did you invent?
Well, like the chakras part for example, it's not really that I read about them besides basic familiarization, however that stuff is quite integral to a lot of my personal metaphysics, because I built on those ideas my own ideas. So, I'm actually a bit out of touch of what these words and the concepts represent IRL. I have deep meanings for them, I don't know if these meanings align with what they are actually supposed to mean that's why.

>when I was young man
I'm 30 bro. I do live and act like a retarded teenager though. Besides a few more mature engagements and what not.

>malignant outgrowth from the constant defective pair-bonding that changes their and even mens whole psychology for the worse.
Well, that's where I'm claiming that I would be offering something else. Because I would be completely bypassing hers and even my own ego. It's just basically meditation together if you want to call it that. I lead the way. She follows if she wants. Now after the fact she can create all kinds of stories and whatnot and she most likely will with her otherwise sick and dysfunctional mind, but I was never in any way manipulative or actually didn't care about her while I engaged her sexually. I DID care. Because I was genuinely in love. Even if I know that love will evaporate the moment I engage her ego. I never engaged it. Besides ofc the basic rapport. If anything, it would have been the purest sex she probably ever experienced.

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>satisfy the opposite sex in the fullest in our ability to raise a child to the point where its capable to fend for itself as an adult
The second part of the sentence would be something I do out of compassion for my own predicament.
As for nutting inside her, I have no such intent regardless of protection used. Even penetration is probably something I'm not ultimately interested in in that context. Fun is fun, love is love, but bringing a mf into this world is a whole nother can of worms I do not take lightly whatsoever. My previous gf (only serious relationship in my life) begged me to fuck her. And I was even blue-pill fantasyland infatuated with her! But you could make an argument that I'm still a virgin.

I may not have much experience, my relationship lasted, well at least the infatuation part, lasted less than a month. After that she was still open for business, but I realized after some time there was no point to it... So I may not have much experience (some short flicks besides that, but nothing hands on or extended), but I do understand how rocky the road can get. Especially if children are involved. It is insane the situations men put themselves into. Especially when they do not clearly define to the woman how everything is going to go before they decide already to have children with her. It is insane. And even then, a great amount of trust is still required regardless....

>>16037
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>I don't really particularly even care that much about her motives or rationale. Maybe naively, but I believe we can bypass that in the raw currency of the present moment. And maybe I can remind her a little bit of who she actually is.
That is impossible because as I have already told you repeatedly women are naturally unconscious archetypes. They can only be reminded of this by being treated as what they are, by the conscious archetype of a man, by being fully dominated, knocked up, held down, and wifed up. And you have to do all of this with love, real love, but detached masculine love, not im an effeminate pussy who wants to be carried down the mountain by a lil bro type love. Women are unirnoically fearful by nature of men who have any inclination towards this type of thing, that is why it repulses them and drives them away. “Oh he needs me to be supportive and to comfort him in some key regard? He needs me to help him face the pain of life and to share in the burden of it? He must not be strong enough to care for me as the unconscious child I am, and thus im going to flee and find someone who will treat me that way.”

>Sometimes I just like giving pleasure. On top of that exploring someone that might be really boring on the ego level, but quite interesting in other ways. Even if we're all distorted and misaligned, you know, bits and pieces of our real nature shine through sometimes. So maybe there's a way to catch that.
God dang anon, your beautifully relatable, but yet again, this is not something that women will fin pallatable lest you hit the fucking jackpot miracle and find someone who is beyond perfect. You want women to be more like men in regard to how they can feel detached from relationships, whether they be sexual or otherwise, and you do not seem to understand properly that women are biologically and psychologically incapable to be detached from relationships this way because its a primordial thing in them that makes them completely deep and involved in the things you want them to be detached in. The only women who are detached in these ways are not the beautiful people like you, they are the ones who are falling all over themselves by trying to act masculine by being loose or in some cases just trying to have male friendships. Women do not have friendships with men, EVER, that is a cardinal no no that runs against their hardwired programming and you do not seem to accept that yet either.

>I'd like to believe that I can make her forget her original motives, the sluttiness only helps in that there wouldn't be preconceived barriers and hoops to jump through.
If you ever achieve this you stumbled upon a miracle, because ordinarily its never ever going to happen, even if you were a drop dead sex machine millionaire.

>Because I really only ever had one woman. Wouldn't mind exploring a few more in this lifetime even if only in this relatively limited way.
Me too, only one girlfriend which was the one I said I nearly married. Unlike you though I have decided im done for life and will not explore anything with anyone else no matter what. Not enough if they were a dream wife on a platter offered freely.

>By the way, I was completely blue pilled at that time. She still obsessed about me in the end because our relationship was short and I pulled back once I got to know her, but the sex was great because I really fucking loved her at the time. That's rare. And would be much harder for me to get into like that right now. Borderline impossible.
Fully matches my experience and trust me when I say I can relate and know how difficult that can be.

>The illusion of how I thought she/females looked at it is shattered. She wasn't the one who shattered it, rather I connected the dots in retrospect in terms of all of the experiences and observations especially in my early life after I started thinking through what the redpill teaches about female sexuality. With her it was more like just realizing that she's a normal person, which was a turn off and a coming down to reality moment. On top of that, I really make much more of a distinction now between a person's ego and my attraction to them. So yeah.
Likewise matches my experiences and feelings. Real shit, chief.

>Well maybe she can if I make it abundantly clear from the start that nothing of sexual nature interests me in terms of our relationship. So that's something real and authentic can develop if it actually can.
That being the case any woman who is not a literal saint is going to feel completely repulsed from the deepest core of her primordial unconscious and this is gonna spill over into conscious expression causing her to drop you like a hot potato.

>And maybe she would still crave it, but IDK, somehow I could dissuade her from putting fuel into that fantasy and instead to look for any actual relevance in terms of maintaining a connection without acknowledging any prospects of sexuality. Is that really practically impossible?
Yes its 100% practically impossible, and if you do not believe me, please go ahead and try it for a few years in order to make sure you suffer enough to see the light of the truth.

>I guess I do think that it's not impossible or entirely improbable.
Only one way kiddo, start running that hypothesis in an active series of experiments, then you will either get one of two results, you will hit the miracle jackpot and find yourself in an extreme example of the exception to the rule or you will be forced to admit I was right.

>Wait, which one? Treating her as a child or as lil bro?
As a lil bro.

>Yes, the relationship would likely dissolve, but not because it is dysfunctional, it would dissolve because I would quickly lose interest when I see that there's not much there in terms of heart in what I imagined to be my little bro. Not because her female fantasy is not satisfied. Because I literally lose interest in her as a person.
But if you run this process out to completion you will find there are no women around you at all to speak to.

>It's just that I'm not denying it may be possible. And again, I'm not actively looking for it, so for all intents and purposes, I just really don't give a fuck. This is a mental exercise.
If this mental exercise is worth its own salt you need to play it out in real life and draw real conclusions in such a regard practically.

>>16039
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>I will do my best to teeter on the line of being rude and being completely/fully respectful so that at the end of the day they may think anon was even nice perhaps, because I ACTUALLY WAS, I just wasn't particularly interested in giving away free cookies. Not to women. LOL.
Kek. This is based af anon. And a key thing that will make women see you as based if you play it right. Its absolutely imperative that you always do a few things with women; One is that you always cross slightly OVER the line of being too forward and dominant with them in order to keep them in their proper place, and two is that you do this in such a manner as to be coyly deprecative of them in order to treat them like children that your teasing. When men treat women this way and there is even a glimmer of that raw attraction you keep mentioning women will drop their panties for you on the spot and yes this has happened to me (and I bet to you also) on a number of occasions. Women need to be spoken down to in a teasing manner, they literally crave this type of treatment and it arouses them sexually to the extreme if they already see you as physically appealing. This is in a sense a masculine way of “playing hard to get” because you have to do in such a way as to show women your indifference towards them, simultaneously teasing them by showing them that you already know they are the ones who want to fuck you while you really do not give two fucks whether you fuck them. That tactic makes women really really horny. Try it out if you want.

>I mean I'll stop if you're stranded on the side of the road and change your tire, but I'll do that for the global harmony, not for you.
Mark of a champion right here. Blessed, based, redpilled, and beautiful, anon.

>Because apparently even fugly bitches think they can pull their bag of tricks on you facepalm.png
Well they are hardwired to anon. They do this in order to “shit test” you, which is actually just a biological and psychological program women MUST RUN because its the only way they can verify what men are safe and effective at treating women as women and themselves as men in a physically and spiritually conducive manner. Now that im older I see how every single shit test I witnessed that women put up against me and my friends growing up really was the most powerful and positively conclusive acid test for separating the men from the boys. I am not on a high horse when I say that in terms of my friend group growing up I am the only one who did not have their life destroyed entirely by repeatedly failing their own girlfriends shit tests so badly in some instances people actually died or permanently lost their sanity as a result. Naturally these men are not really men at all, because they are effeminate docile pussies who have no business even trying to be real men let alone treating women like real women. And keep in mind anon, many of these people who got it THE WORST and were driven to the point of people dying or becoming full blown mentally ill the point of absolute non-functional decrepitude were the EXACT SAME PEOPLE who were getting the most pussy when we were teens and in our early 20s. Look at them now, they are at the end of a rope (literally) and going to likely die by suicide, alcoholism, or drug addiction, probably all three as it stands.

>Well, like the chakras part for example, it's not really that I read about them besides basic familiarization, however that stuff is quite integral to a lot of my personal metaphysics, because I built on those ideas my own ideas. So, I'm actually a bit out of touch of what these words and the concepts represent IRL. I have deep meanings for them, I don't know if these meanings align with what they are actually supposed to mean that's why.
Yet again, im not read on this subject specifically so I did not pick up on this, but my advice is you climb your way to finding the most valid resources of research on the subject and ingress your understanding and private interpretation into the one presented from the most valid source(s).

>I'm 30 bro. I do live and act like a retarded teenager though. Besides a few more mature engagements and what not.
Well then it seems your the exact same age as me. Forgive me you came off like someone I thought was 20-25, but you even admitted that was only natural of me to feel such a way on the basis of this conversation. How old did you think I was?

>Well, that's where I'm claiming that I would be offering something else. Because I would be completely bypassing hers and even my own ego. It's just basically meditation together if you want to call it that. I lead the way. She follows if she wants.
For the MILLIONTH TIME, if you attain this you are literally .0000000000000001% of people and you are beyond blessed, otherwise its never ever going to happen.

>but I was never in any way manipulative or actually didn't care about her while I engaged her sexually. I DID care. Because I was genuinely in love. Even if I know that love will evaporate the moment I engage her ego. I never engaged it. Besides ofc the basic rapport. If anything, it would have been the purest sex she probably ever experienced.
This type of detachment is what women will do everything under the sun to convince you they can match in you and they may indeed try to participate in such a thing with you, but ultimately all women who do this do it ingenuinely from one of two angles.
1 They are trying and inevitably failing to match your masculine detachment (which is also coupled in this case with masculine involvement, because in a truly masculine sense as you correctly surmised, detachment and involvement/integration must be simultaneous and fluid) and will implode as a result in the end causing a problem for the both of you and those around you possibly too.
Or
2 They are trying to win you over and convert you over to being monogamous with them by showing you how worthy they are to be to your sole shining star, and when you do convert in such a manner they will yet again implode and cause serious problems for everyone involved.

Btw Asian women are hot as fuck. Not just because they look sexy, but because they act sexy and are more in-tune with being real women who are satisfied to be real women than western women. Asian women are way more likely to be tradwifeish, and way more likely to be more than happy to be treated by men as real women. They are more likely to accept a life that is spiritually proper, free of sodomy (any sex which does not involve procreation is sodomy), and glad to have their pussies blasted full of cum. This is how women always were historically before all this k!ke garbage started being shoved down everyone's throats, but the y!kes have only directed their rays mostly on the western world, Asians have not been impacted by this nearly as much and still live properly in real ethnostates. I have only ever fucked two chicks, one white and one black, and I will admit it would be super awesome (in a certain sense of it thats not worth my time to take seriously ultimately) to fuck an asian, but how awesome it would be is not nearly awesome enough to offset my ultimate semen retension grind because the results from that are 1000x more amazing than the best sex possible or even the best relationship possible. No joke anon, if you have not tried SR please give it a real try, its unspeakably good, better than any orgasm could ever be once you get in a good long streak.

>>16038
>The second part of the sentence would be something I do out of compassion for my own predicament.
As for nutting inside her, I have no such intent regardless of protection used. Even penetration is probably something I'm not ultimately interested in in that context. Fun is fun, love is love, but bringing a mf into this world is a whole nother can of worms I do not take lightly whatsoever.
Anon yet again, your thinking that how you see this all as a man is just going to "fly" with women, and its not. Women demand semen, and they demand to take it internally in one form or another. Via goyslop media we were all raised in an era where this was transitioned into a mock form of cannibalism via the normalizing of women swallowing mens loads, something which did not exist as a commonality as it does currently in days of old but was merely made the norm by jewish pornography. This mock cannibalism has largely taken the place that direct impregnation of women had historically.

Anon, I want you to ask yourself something, and ask yourself honestly; How many men do you know who ever sat a woman down and said "woman, im going to impregnate you intentionally right now"? I bet almost none or literally no one you know has ever done this. Why? Because we all grew up from our childhood being taught that this is the last thing you ever want to do, because all real sex has been transitioned into sodomy in our society on the basis that it must begin with the agreement men and women say to one another "ok, we are going to fuck, but we are also going to make sure that there is no way that the male seed is put in the female womb with the possibility of it gestating there. we will both work together to make certain this is avoided." And that is why women are never really satisfied, because lo-and-behold, this entire schematic runs fully contrary to womens biological, psychological, and spiritual imperative. This is one of several reasons why its been scientifically proven that women who use the pill are more likely to develop mental disorders, because the mental disorders do not just come from the pharamacological actions of the pill, but from that combined with the psychological and biological effects from the behaviors that are naturally coupled along with the taking of it.

>>16018
I just wanna say again anon, lets never forget how blessed we are to be able to have a conversation like this and to be able to provide one another with this type of dialog. I have seen men and women die terrible, absolutely horrible deaths because they did not understand, integrate, or apply this type of knowledge, and I have also seen men and women be driven to the point of no return before they were even 30 because of it. The lack of this type of understanding in life has made my old friend group utterly repulsive to me, and at this point im absolutely disgusted by them for becoming what they are. Never let go of this wisdom anon, never ever let go of it, or you may lose your life and/or your soul.

>>16018
One last thing for now. I want you to know I have a very deep seated appreciation for the fact that you recognized women as the microcosmic expression of the Divine Feminine, and that when you treat women properly as such you can experience them as such. That is literally you reaching out into the Sacred, Holy, and Divine anon. If only we did not live in such a dogshit goyslop society maybe we could actually participate in treating women this way and actively love them as such, but modern women will have none of this.

Modern women do not want to be treated this way because like we already said ad nauseum they little to no understanding of their true selves or what gives them the greatest satisfaction ultimately so they become brainwashed/hypnotized into thinking that being treated this way by men is demeaning and unsatisfying.

We need to go back to the Adam and Eve days anon, when women were not even "human" in the sense that men are, they were literally the help-meets of men, and were loved and cherished and honored as being sacred as such. But no, now the fucking kykes have convinced women they will only be happy by trying to be men and that men will only be happy trying to be women and *POOF!* now everyone is a flaming faggot or a maniac dyke.

Yea, reality is not flattering, and sometimes it really sux, but we can always use it to our advantage because God designs it and us to be able to do this if we can unlock the secrets to how. Every day I run through the mountains and valleys of life with the Divine Feminine, and every night I fall asleep in her arms. It was not easy, and I nearly got killed many a time along the way, tons of my closest family and friends died or went mad because they did not work it out, but I really did make it, and I believe you can too.

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>>16039





>have to do all of this with love, real love, but detached masculine love
My brother in Christ, you don't have to do anything. There are no shoulds. But, yes, there are different kinds of love.
The one that you're talking about here as in the detached masculine love. We are nowhere near on that level. Let's start with brotherly love. There is a progression to things. And you cannot really skip steps. Not really. And at the end of the day, everything centers around the heart.

>im an effeminate pussy who wants to be carried down the mountain by a lil bro type love
Yeah, sure, that's effeminate, I can see that, when I look deeper, BUT, if our relationships were elevated to that level, we would be a completely different civilization. Right now Earth is mostly operating on the third density. Solar plexus. Ownership. The fun - hasn't even begun yet. Hasn't even started at all yet. And I'm not talking just about romantic relationships, these are just following the general trends. You can make a sexual relationship work on the 3rd density, but don't confuse that as being above the heart, fourth density.

To me, brotherly love, which I haven't really experienced that much of, only tastes here and there, to me that is a thing of tremendous value and at the end of the day probably the highest value in terms of any kind of relationship imaginable. Yes, once that is established it can evolve for a lack of a better word, but really just as a natural progression develop into more sophisticated forms of it. But it all starts and it all ends with the heart connection. At least as far as relationships go. And in a sense, everything is a relationship. Mark my words, there is no ecstasy, there is no creative trance, which is the fifth density, there is none of that without the heart connection.

The bro relationship even in the romantic context is actually the next step after the child relationship. Which is perhaps more accurately called - charity relationship. You are as a man essentially running a charity. Owning a child.

>this is not something that women will fin pallatable
Oh they WILL fin it palatable. First of all you're doing the thinking for them here and saying stfu right now and pay attention to what I'm doing. Second they're lost little imbeciles who don't know what the fuck they want, so you can be sure as hell they won't want anything above third density. Which you're not offering in that scenario so each side wins. Third - they'll melt like butter once you start communicating directly with their body and circumventing whatever rules and regulations they think they have for the men in their lives. Body to body communication alone will do everything for you as long as you know how not to interfere with what your own body wants to do. Eye contact will only help in this because you get in contact with something more genuine than whatever bullshit usually goes on in her head, which will make it much more plausible for you to actually like her and for her in turn - it will solidify your dominance, because she doesn't know what the fuck she's doing when she's looking into your eyes, while you know exactly what you're doing.

>You want women to be more like men in regard to how they can feel detached from relationships, whether they be sexual or otherwise, and you do not seem to understand properly that women are biologically and psychologically incapable to be detached from relationships this way
I'm not building a long-term relationship here. JUST the authentic encouter, idc what she thinks about it afterwards. While it's happening, she'll have no time to think, because I'm leading the thought process there and in my head fucking wind is howling. And even if she is in her head to an extent - cool, fine, something more significant is happening though, so I'd hope she'd be paying at least some attention, otherwise it's boring - TO ME, there needs to be a mutual acknowledgement of what is happening for it to work. All I want from her is to pay attention, as long as she does - idc what fantasy she's playing in her rational mind if she has time for that. The relationship is HERE NOW bitch, PAY ATTENTION.

>involved in the things you want them to be detached in. The only women who are detached in these ways are not the beautiful people like you, they are the ones who are falling all over themselves by trying to act masculine by being loose or in some cases just trying to have male friendships
You misunderstand me. I don't want them to be detached from that part, I just don't want them to think too much about it at that moment and allow the her body itself to receive all of that relationship/fantasy whatever you want to call it - directly from my body and she CAN if I'm genuinely in love.
Also let's be real none of them are realistically looking for masculine type heart based friendship (not even men are looking for that in their friendships, not really, not yet) in their romantic relationships unless as an afterthought and even that in rare cases like if they marry a guy and are extremely evolved in general.
But yeah, the ran through and the masculinized feminist fypes or girl's girls, what I'm talking about wouldn't even be possible with them, because 1. Id probably never be attracted in the first place 2. She has no conception of such sex/play nor ability to pay attention to it or even register it on her radar. To her sex is basically what you see in porn - beyond boring. I'm glad she can still manage to get wet with that kind of sexual play, but idk, god bless both parties who enjoys that sex, yeah, God bless.

>Women do not have friendships with men,
Ok, finally we're agreeing. That's definitely not what they're looking for in their conscious mind, definitely not in the romantic context on this planet at this time.
>EVER, that is a cardinal no no that runs against their hardwired programming and you do not seem to accept that yet either.
Well, not 100% agreeing. Because, ultimately, even biologically if you pay close attention - we are the same kind of being. But forget the biologic thing that is going to take too long to discuss. But fundamentally we are exactly the same, there are no two types of beings, masculine and feminine. We are all exactly the same, we are made out of exactly the same stuff. And that alone makes the statement obsolete. You could make an argument in romantic relationships, but even that - it has an open end and when you look carefully where it leads - it leads right back to it - basic relationship between one being and another being. Basic friendship relationship. Basic love. Basic creative instinct. Basic curiosity.

But man, you wrote a book and I already wrote the book just trying to address the first points. I may or may not be able to read and address it all in a rapid succession right now. But I do find that a conversation worth having. Give me some time.

Re-reading this I caught a critical typo of mine, I meant.
>2 They are trying to win you over and convert you over to being monogamous with them by showing you how worthy they are to be to your sole shining star, and when you do NOT convert in such a manner they will yet again implode and cause serious problems for everyone involved.

>>16044
screenshotting this to reply later or tomorrow. also this thread is now being saved in a full pdf for my personal archive. its officially become the best one on one conversation on these subjects I have ever had with anyone IRL or online in my entire life. Congratulations bro. We are winning.

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>because ordinarily its never ever going to happen
Nah, just get her to not fear you and to feel rapport and if there's any initial sparks AT ALL, you can find them and build on them. Sure might have to take it real slow at first if the sparks are small, maybe even separate a few times, kinda like fishing. TALK TO HER BODY, NOT HER. Keep her ego occupied in the mean time if you have to - by NOT SAYING ANYTHING SERIOUS. Troll her lightly, make her feel comfortable. She'll soon pick up that the main conversation right now is not happening in the verbal realm. Even if not soon - she'll pick it up eventually. Doesn't matter.

>Not enough if they were a dream wife on a platter offered freely.
That's one way to deal with it. Don't waste the clarity.

>try it for a few years in order to make sure you suffer enough to see the light of the truth.
Haha, man, you're funny. But I'm not disagreeing.

>How old did you think I was?
Well I thought you thought I was 24-30 and you referred to me as a kid, so I thought you'd be 36-40. Haha. Also with the talk about married friends, comrades dying... I'm really demented online as a rule, so you have full right to assume I was in my early 20s.

>2 They are trying to win you over
Yea, well. Let them. I'm not asking detachment of them or from them. And it's not like a fake thing that would be happening between us. This kind of relationship WOULD eventually dissolve, because her ego would decide to dissolve it, but an encounter in itself is not impossible and it CAN be authentic. And multiple encounters too can be possible and authentic. No, she's not truly "my woman" in the bigger picture, but she IS in that moment. And that can be real for both of us.
Now, you would be right to question the ultimate value of that. But it's not clear that there isn't any. As you would be right to question the ultimate value of engaging with the 'representations' of the divine feminine at all, rather than engaging it directly.
But I guess if you love this species - sure go ahead. That's one possible motivator.

>Btw Asian women are hot as fuck. Not just because they look sexy, but because they act sexy and are more in-tune with being real women who are satisfied to be real women than western women
Too soft for me. Lack a bit of character. But I obviously recognize what you're saying. However, ultimately I need wasian, because there are extremely beautiful, but also they have some of that european master race... fierceness for a lack of a better word. Also their bodies are more godlike ultimately for me, for the same reason. Not that I care that much about the body.

>This is how women always were historically before all this k!ke garbage
Haha, you know what's up. But any young chick in a relatively developed country with an online habit is going to be much closer to the western average than 10 years ago. But yes, I understand everything that you're saying.

>once you get in a good long streak
Been a while
I'll consider

>And that is why women are never really satisfied, because lo-and-behold, this entire schematic runs fully contrary to womens biological, psychological, and spiritual imperative
I see the point that you're making. I knew women want to be impregnated, but thanks for driving this one home. I also know that they should prove something of extreme worth to me before I want to do that, because I will likely feel responsible well, first of all for the child, but at that point to a significant degree for her as well... Until then, she should be savoring if I as much as come into proximity with her body. And anyhow, let me tease her a little bit, why go straight for the kill if we can take the long and scenic route?
Just because I'm not willing to go the full 100%, doesn't mean I can't go 0.001% and see how both of us like that.

>>16025
>>16047
using age numbers as personality traits/virtue points is the most shallow thing ever

also this post reads like the typical sophomorphic adult whom has internalised a comic book impression of gender nature.

>Anon I am not a young man anymore, but an old man, and I hope that for all the value that posts like yours brought into my life when I was young (which can not be understated, such things directly led me to understanding that which I share with you now) that you likewise see the value in my post as helping to correct and properly flesh-out what it is that your observing and commenting on here.

Youth is not automatic innocence. Thats a paternalistic fantasy semi-consciously made by adults.

Also:
>Well they are hardwired to anon. They do this in order to “shit test” you, which is actually just a biological and psychological program women MUST RUN because its the only way they can verify what men are safe and effective at treating women as women and themselves as men in a physically and spiritually conducive manner. Now that im older I see how every single shit test I witnessed that women put up against me and my friends growing up really was the most powerful and positively conclusive acid test for separating the men from the boys. I am not on a high horse when I say that in terms of my friend group growing up I am the only one who did not have their life destroyed entirely by repeatedly failing their own girlfriends shit tests so badly in some instances people actually died or permanently lost their sanity as a result. Naturally these men are not really men at all, because they are effeminate docile pussies who have no business even trying to be real men let alone treating women like real women. And keep in mind anon, many of these people who got it THE WORST and were driven to the point of people dying or becoming full blown mentally ill the point of absolute non-functional decrepitude were the EXACT SAME PEOPLE who were getting the most pussy when we were teens and in our early 20s. Look at them now, they are at the end of a rope (literally) and going to likely die by suicide, alcoholism, or drug addiction, probably all three as it stands.

this sounds like bitterness and humblebragging. Also this obsession with "men vs boys" whenever people talk about male sociology but never do the same for female sociology is especially shallow.

this obsession with masculinity and maturity as in OP's "psychosexual redpill" essay is telling of people who lack both

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>One last thing for now. I want you to know I have a very deep seated appreciation for the fact that you recognized women as the microcosmic expression of the Divine Feminine, and that when you treat women properly as such you can experience them as such
Well, I don't know if it was Jung or who suggested it to you, but I found it surprising that you recognized the feminine as the unconscious. I have come to the same conclusion. It's a void. It's space. We are all in it, dancing merrily and in all different ways. Women at the end of the day (as consciousness itself) are no different in that regard. Even if they do represent what they represent. The feminine doesn't exist. Maybe you don't quite see it that way, but I know that wherever you may go and talk about the nature of femininity and so on, very few will find it palatable or agree with you that it is essentially nothing, so just you labeling it as the unconscious is appreciated. But I guess I don't want to dive too deep into that, because it would go into straight metaphysics and I doubt our languages will align there and I doubt either of us have much to gain from that discussion. Especially not in the written format.

>We need to go back to the Adam and Eve days anon, when women were not even "human" in the sense that men are, they were literally the help-meets of men, and were loved and cherished and honored as being sacred as such. But no, now the fucking kykes have convinced women they will only be happy by trying to be men and that men will only be happy trying to be women and *POOF!* now everyone is a flaming faggot or a maniac dyke.
Well, if we are gonna choose the lightness direction option as a civ, I don't believe that this is where we are generally going. There will remain strong sex polarity in our species, but you will see more and more of the spectrum and everything in between. Which is a natural consequence of expanding consciousness. If we go the dark path - it can go in any direction you can imagine, but obviously not hyper functional or natural. I have a feeling where we are going but in 10 years it's going to be quite obvious I think. Well, that's a separate discussion that I'm usually not interested in. But I do like the relative intensity coming on into the zeitgeist. In any case I think I will be fascinated. But we are at a crossroads. Which is exciting. ETs especially gonna flip all our social, sexual, friendship and every relational understandings like none of us are yet capable of imagining. AI's gonna be bigger than the internet etc. Then conscious AI is also within our lifetimes. Extra dimensional noncorporeal contacts of various sorts. It's gonna be a ride if we manage to maintain the bodies. And even if it goes to shit, I have no doubt it will still be quite a spectacle to behold. We're lucky, anon.

>Every day I run through the mountains and valleys of life with the Divine Feminine, and every night I fall asleep in her arms.
This is real af

>>16052
Are from LeftyPol or 4chan or some equivalent?

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>>16054
No, 420chan. Pretty much exclusively. /b/ and hallucinogen boards in particular. Until it died.

I don't belong on phi, I posted only to troll and screenshot my own post basically. Move along. I'm not one of you and I won't entertain you.

>>16056
Are you OP? Im a 420chan refugee as well. Will ignore the thread derailment of unproductive criticisms which provide no alternatives for us to better ourselves and respond to your posts shortly (if you are indeed OP as I suspect).

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>>16057
Yeah, OP. Which posts are yours if any? We got to start Avatar fagging guys, this is getting a bit confusing. So far all posts with images itt is me and I will probably continue with the Asian girl theme.

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>>16058
Im the main person speaking to you throughout the thread. The only other poster(s) are the people who are trying to be condescending and trying to troll the thread by not contributing anything but baseless criticism without any helpful contributions.

Going forward I will start posting with distinct images. Give me a few minutes and I will type up a full reply. This is officially a 420chan refugee thread. /opi/ /psych/ /weed/ and other poster here. In fact if you recall the Ibogaine thread that was active when 420chan shut down and the dude who posted it, that is me. Same one as the ibogaine poster from lainchan.

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>One is that you always cross slightly OVER the line of being too forward and dominant with them in order to keep them in their proper place, and two is that you do this in such a manner as to be coyly deprecative of them in order to treat them like children that your teasing.
>Women need to be spoken down to in a teasing manner, they literally crave this type of treatment and it arouses them sexually to the extreme if they already see you as physically appealing. This is in a sense a masculine way of “playing hard to get” because you have to do in such a way as to show women your indifference towards them, simultaneously teasing them by showing them that you already know they are the ones who want to fuck you while you really do not give two fucks whether you fuck them.
Ok, can you clarify the first and second part. Not a fan of manipulative tactics, but so I understand what you are actually talking about. And perhaps for testing. I don't know if I want to cross any boundaries unless I can be bothered to care enough to make it right. I prefer always be respectful especially if I don't intend to have any kind of relationship with the person - so they have any handle to latch on to me, nor do I feel in any way obligated to give them attention. But if I find an intriguing girl I might play a bit in an appropriate setting.
For me what I wrote was basically about not having to deal with the female traps that so many of them think they can put men through for no reason whatsoever other than hoeflation that in most cases has absolutely nothing to do with me who wants 0 of anything sexual from them. It's just to make my life easier, not to get them wet per se. I'm not attracted to most girls. Not even physically. I was born fucked perhaps idk. I'm also racist and think most people are niggers of one sort or another. Which is how I explain their lack of taste.

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>>16059
Oh dam, I do remember. Might even have a screencap somewhere. Did ibogaine a few times. Relatively small doses. Amazing substance!
But I had many high dose trips on phens and trypts and lyzergamides, and some breakthroughs on DMT in particular both oral (1 breakthrough, was a big whoopsie doodle) and vaporized. Don't ask. Still coming to terms with all that.

I'm mostly a flashback tripper for the last decade. Just remembering shit....
I was mostly on psy, but also a bit on del and dis. The latter mostly to lurk.

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>>16059
Btw is lainchan any good nowadays? I only visited briefly when 420chan died along with a bunch of others where I posted briefly, but didn't find the right culture. Besides 7chan which I love, I have nothing really. 7chan is dying tho, idk, it's weird, I feel it's the closest to me and the janitors are 20 times superior than what we had, we were lucky if they were just gone for a while, but this site is so grindingly slow that I also am not sure if I even have it. On the other hand it's nice knowing you can visit once a month just to miss nothing.

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Maybe you didn't hate me but if you do recall anyone, I was the pompous douche tripfagging as lil'shit and later on as Awe'God

>>16059
This whole thread about female nature is condescension to begin with. It's the typical redpill sophomoric bullshit made by disgruntled pseudo mature adults.

>No, I meant the equality fantasy relationship. Raw attraction is a given unless your an absolute fool, and even then you might get more pussy. Raw attraction is super hot, but personally I do not believe in entertaining it at this point in my life. There is always risk involved in approaching women in these ways because women act like sluts in order to express unconscious masculinity, that is why most slutty women are dangerous. I know this sounds insane to any young man, but I mean that seriously, slutty women are immature and masculine in all the wrong ways, and I have seen that transition into life threatening dangers in situations that started in the most casual of ways. Don’t believe me? You will find out one day, and you will realize that more men have these types of experiences than you previously imagined.

There's nothing masculine nor feminine about sluttiness.

>. When your young you do not notice that aspect of it, or the greater implication of how its psychological pull when lowered to the point of being almost a sort of recreation and relaxed stimulation (sex is “interesting” because the process of it is all speedy but when you cum and slightly after that its like an opiate) is actually just another aspect of our dogshit modern society that never existed historically.

Sounds like someone fucked in their youth. It's always the fuckups who like to assume that youth is universal folly for every one else as well

>Because they are biologically, psychologically, and spiritually incapable to, on top of that the entire edifice of what they conceive as being masculine (from the vantage of the post-modern overton window that 95% of people look through male or female) is a complete farce. The only thing they have gotten right in this regard is that men do not innately need women in the sense that women innately need men and women are now trying to mimic this, and everyone is becoming wretched and miserable in the process.

Wrong. Men are ucking simps. That's why women are fucked up

>>16060
>Not even physically. I was born fucked perhaps idk. I'm also racist and think most people are niggers of one sort or another. Which is how I explain their lack of taste.

Of course, another one of these.
Lemme guess you were a wallflower who thought themselves too smart and nice for their own good despite not having any industrial skills to bring to the table.

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>>16067
>Men are ucking simps. That's why women are fucked up.
You're not wrong on that. As I said in the OP - I think it's at least for the very most part - men to blame for the whole thing. But, men are just a reflection of the general state of society. As I later explained, women too are autonomous beings, should not be view solely from the sexual lense even if they themselves choose to operate mostly from there and then I said that they too have living beating fucking hearts, so that should tell you everything you need to know about what they ultimately are and their potential.
Other than that judging from your other responses, you're not grasping the layers in the discussion, so you only serve to confuse.
>>16068
I was good at css. If that's not an industrial skill, I don't know what is. Killing faggots like you at scale, that ought to have some value at least.

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Just lit up one of my favorite oscuro cigars, so lets get deep into this fren(s).

>using age numbers as personality traits/virtue points is the most shallow thing ever

>Poor estimation of the content your commenting on
>Criticism without correction
>Does not contribute
>But you still wasted your own time reading the thread and replying to it
Who is the dumb one here? Hold on...give me time, pwease be patient I have tism, im sure I can figure it out EVENTUALLY. Er, uhm, hmmm….maybe, m-m-maybe, its...its...perhaps its...you?

>also this post reads like the typical sophomorphic adult whom has internalised a comic book impression of gender nature.

So take us to school, why don’t you? Come on wretch, im a willing student. Give me your best effort post and dare me to take your redpills. Im chomping at the bit over here anon! Just try and give me some redpills that you think I will not take. I do not eat food kiddo, I live strictly on redpills, mescaline, cannabis, ibogaine, bufo-toad venom, and oscuros. TRY ME. Right now. I piss more acetone and drink more methanol while I post than any man that ever was on any of the alt chans. And thats just an appetizer before I follow up with some Aurum Potabile and Elixir of Life. You have to be at least this philosophical to post in this bread anon.

>Youth is not automatic innocence. Thats a paternalistic fantasy semi-consciously made by adults.

Now, go on, do the decent thing, and extrapolate. Im really not sure at all what your trying to teach me, and how I in any way presumed or implied that youth means automatic innocence. What I implied is that youth means less time on earth to have had experiences in, and to have the types of experiences that people only have which sometimes take many decades. Also its a fact the human brain locks into a highly fixed mode at 27 years old, after people are 27 their sense of life and identity is pretty much set in stone, lest very extenuating circumstances change that. That is why I made sure to quit a decade of opiate addiction at 27. So remind me again, where did you autistically miss that as the point? Your probably trolling me right now, because any troll worth its salt will attack someone making a statement of gratitude (as you quoted from me) so as to throw a monkey wrench in the thread which makes no sense ordinarily. If thats what your doing...CONGRATULATIONS! YOUR SO COOL! Thank fucking GOD your here bro, Jesus Christ we been waiting for you, we need YOU so fucking badly! Your just in time anon, im so fucking glad your here, here smoke this oscuro cigar, because this thread is about to go Alice Kramden on yo ass MA NYUGGA!

>BANG-ZOOM, STRAIGHT TO DA MOON!

So tell me wretched anon…
Will you rise over the helm?
Or settle down to caput?
Will you fix yourself as the Salt?
Or be filtered as is the soot?
Will you find yourself to it All?
Or surprise yourself when you LOSE?
Will you follow the Path of The Wise?
Or despise yourself as the Fools?

Resent thyself and despise?
Or ascend thyself to exhume?
Repent thyself and ascribe?
Or out-bed thyself in the tomb?

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>>16076
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Remind me again, just one last time, are you crawling in or out of the fucking Womb?
I WEALLY WEALLY WANT TO KNOW.
Because my pistons are pumping, and I already bought me ticket, so put on your show.
Your lap is my ashtray, thus in your face, and up your ass, my smoke I shall blow.

You also did not read the part of the thread where we already corrected and addressed the fact that it was started off on the basis of somewhat of a miscalculation on my part, thats why I said that which you quoted by me in the way I did.

>this sounds like bitterness and humblebragging. Also this obsession with "men vs boys" whenever people talk about male sociology but never do the same for female sociology is especially shallow.
this obsession with masculinity and maturity as in OP's "psychosexual redpill" essay is telling of people who lack both

For me its easy and comes naturally and feels pleasurable, for you, I presume, you see it as a pickle and a bummer, so naturally you would project that onto me. Im unironically relaxing and unwinding here. This is how I relax. You are either trolling, misinterpreting, or stupid. Also you misjudged OP if you interpreted them as seeing this as a pickle either. They admitted it started out as a troll. It was a damn good one because it got me haha.

>LeftyPol

Yeeeshhh! WEW LAD. Even the name of...that...thing gives me the willies. That is the worst chan I know of.

>My brother in Christ, you don't have to do anything. There are no shoulds.

Let me clarify what I meant by “HAVE to do all of this with love, real love, but detached masculine love”. I mean to say that you can not just be like “Oh yea, im gonna just totally fool some bitch into being happy with me when I do not give a shit about her, ill just play the game by all the rules and be a Chad, and that alone will keep her happy because women definitely can not innately tell when I do or do not love them in a way which is genuine but also a proper healthy expression of masculinity.” While at the same time you likewise can not be like “Ok im just gonna love women in such a way where im obsessively clingy to them and show them how BADLY I NEED them to feel safe and comfortable WITH MYSELF NONE THE LESS and how much I would be reduced to a slush puddle without them because I value them soo much in such a way that if I do not have them I will be a whiny faggot.”

You only HAVE to play this game if you intend to go all the way with a woman, and lest you wanna be a sodomite, you can not have sex unless you knock them up.

Men constantly fall into these traps, and yet again I have seen this destroy many many peoples lives, and even seen people die terrible deaths because of this. You need to wife em up and knock em up but IF YOU DO SO you need to do so with real passion, and this real passion needs to be detached in such a way as to keep the women constantly consoled and confident that you ARE a real man by showing her that you do not do this because you would be reduced to a puddle without her, because shes already got a pussy anon, she does not need another one, (are you old enough to remember that one?? jk haha) but because as YOU correctly kept referencing in your previous posts you understand her (and likewise yourself) in a manner which is primordial and not attached to any ego or any paltry perishable thing. You do not win over women by treating them like special princess’s but you tease them and demonstrate to them through subtly and gesture that you only love them (but that love is genuine) because they are a good woman and that if they suddenly prove themselves to be otherwise they have zero value to you and you will not even bat an eye as you walk away, because ultimately the world is full of good women for any man who knows how to find them. Only goyim do not see life this way, nor understand how to satisfy themselves under the conditions of life as such.

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>>16077
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Even if you do not have many good women around you to pick from you need to act as if you do, you need to act as if its all at your fingertips and world is your oyster, and the more calmly and confidently you can demonstrate this to a woman, you will find suddenly the more calmly and confidently you are by extension demonstrating it unto yourself, and thus the more she will desire you and not want to lose you because she knows that very few men are truly that masculine that they do not lose sleep over a lack of pussy, and when your ready to go beyond that, to be a man who can be so evolved as to feel more pleasure without a nut, and say so with intellectually genuine honesty, then you feel when you do nut. Pretending this means nothing for anyone who does so, because ultimately your going to bed with yourself every night and waking up with yourself every morning for the long haul anyway chief, its just that most people men or women do not tend to feel such a sense of themselves as to know how to tailor their own skin to their liking.

This is one of several key reasons that sexual disinterest of a certain accord and teasing women thereabout (because they are purely sexual by nature) is a huge turn on for them. Its actually a more concrete expression of a mans dominance over himself than anything else, and this is what women primordially search for in men just like I told you earlier in the thread. That gets overlapped with social relationships and hierarchies but ultimately its rooted within the individual.

Low effort, condescending, unhelpful, hard hearted posters can not even type a post better than my first page.

But there is something Good waiting Down this Road, and Im pickin up whatever is mine.

For example, you ever have the classic experience of fingering a girl really good, and then doing it so much, and to such a degree, that the woman starts demanding you fuck her? Well I and many other men have noticed that when we do this the reason it turns women on hard is because like I said it turns them on to know your not really such a pussy addict that you feel the need to get pleasure from them soo much your incapable of expressing masculine detachment and showing thereby that you are hip enough and man enough to control yourself and stall such desires while goading them on to the point of screaming for your dick. Building women up with foreplay, which ultimately starts in terms of body language and dialog in the most subtle and casual way, is a key way that women get driven wild for men, because albeit in nearly all cases unconscious, women are repulsed by men who are desperate coomers and they are attracted by men who do not care about cooming but instead will teasingly goad on women to make the woman super horny. Its like parents tease children in a NONSEXUAL manner but grafted onto the sexual nature of a female adult who is a closer expression to a primordial child than an adult man. No shock there considering womans biology let alone psychology.

Inexperienced men always think about sex like “I NEED MY DICK IN PUSSY” but women know ultimately all experienced and truly masculine men think in terms of “I want to build this broad up till she goes totally crazy and starts dripping like a faucet. If I coom I do not really care, but I want to make sure she goes nuts and starts demanding it.” This is the best way to do it and men who do not play it really cool and show women they are detached from them in these ways always ALWAYS come off as desperate, and thus they come off as effeminate, and thus women are repulsed and disgusted. You admitted you had this experience yourself in a previous post, im not sure if you realized this is the reason why, but it is the reason why, because you admitted you expressed both real love and masculine detachment, and it drove your ex nuts. Good job.

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>>16078
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When I say “you need” I think your interpreting that statement a bit hyper-literally, which is natural for a tist. What I meant is “if you want things to work, and you want them to keep working for the long run, and by that very nature you want to give a woman what she demands, albeit as a woman makes demands, not as a man makes demands, for women demand things silently and with posture, body language, gesture, and slight of hand. Not by way of direct speech or hyper-literal expression, but through subtle silent expressions, which all men know very very well if they are actually experienced men.” I did not mean “YOU NEED TO DO THIS ANON, YOUR NOT LIVING RIGHT LEST YOU BEHAVE THIS WAY BECAUSE AH, UH, ERM….CAUSE I SAID SO!”

>Let's start with brotherly love.

Me and you are already there chief, by the Grace of Christ fren, we are already there, but this is not the way we treat women now, is it? Its the way we treat brothers, and this thread is a text book expression of that.

>And at the end of the day, everything centers around the heart.

Amen and amen. “For where your Treasure is, there your Heart will be also.” - Jesus Christ

>Yeah, sure, that's effeminate, I can see that, when I look deeper, BUT, if our relationships were elevated to that level, we would be a completely different civilization.

But anon, only the most blessed of us are given over to such grace, and this is the exception to the rule at this time in our society and in our part of the world. Yet again your exploring an accurate take of a utopian idealism which I will confess I share at root, but the practicality of its application does not feasibly exist for us, and probably never will in our lifetime because its realistically not meant to. This is the kind of thing that WE (true brothers) can share, and this thread is proving how easily we can do it, with one another, but its nearly impossible to get modern women to abide by such things or reach such a level of consciousness. As you yourself admitted both me and you are finding it borderline impossible to even share such a thing with other men, but this thread is proving through our diligent efforts its becoming more and more likely.

>Right now Earth is mostly operating on the third density. Solar plexus. Ownership. The fun - hasn't even begun yet. Hasn't even started at all yet. And I'm not talking just about romantic relationships, these are just following the general trends. You can make a sexual relationship work on the 3rd
density, but don't confuse that as being above the heart, fourth density.

Your demonstrating to me (and I hope that im expressing myself in such a way to demonstrate that im reciprocating) that WE are currently already living on that level. Women who you meet in the streets are not, and for that matter neither are the men you meet in the streets. But WE are going beyond that straight into the Heart because that is where we really abide. The Heart of Zion is within us anon, and your receiving these posts from me from that very place, and likewise posting from that very place back unto me yourself. But who would believe me, and who would believe you? Only those of us who are evolving to the point of such a consciousness.

>To me, brotherly love, which I haven't really experienced that much of, only tastes here and there, to me that is a thing of tremendous value and at the end of the day probably the highest value in terms of any kind of relationship imaginable. Yes, once that is established it can evolve for a lack of a better word, but really just as a natural progression develop into more sophisticated forms of it. But it all starts and it all ends with the heart connection. At least as far as relationships go. And in a sense, everything is a relationship. Mark my words, there is no ecstasy, there is no creative trance, which is the fifth density, there is none of that without the heart connection.

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>>16079
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DING DING DING. We got a winner. I fully agree. But this is what attracts the True Brothers, and likewise repulses the average brainwashed woman. It even repulses the intelligent clear minded woman, because women by nature do not want you (a man) to treat them as BROTHERS, because they are not, they are HELP-MEETS.

>The bro relationship even in the romantic context is actually the next step after the child relationship. Which is perhaps more accurately called – charity relationship. You are as a man essentially running a charity. Owning a child.

I am aware, and there is also no denying that the best of us, the most blessed of us, do in fact find this, but those people are literally in a Saintly-style miracle existence, not the common existence of the public world. I say that because both the man and the woman need to be evolved beyond the ordinary scope of the current social condition of our society to access this dimension of life. Any person who reaches such a thing and sustains it in [current year] is so blessed I consider it a miracle. Miracles do exist though, naturally.

>Oh they WILL fin it palatable. First of all you're doing the thinking for them here and saying stfu right now and pay attention to what I'm doing. Second they're lost little imbeciles who don't know what the fuck they want, so you can be sure as hell they won't want anything above third density. Which you're
not offering in that scenario so each side wins. Third - they'll melt like butter once you start communicating directly with their body and circumventing whatever rules and regulations they think they have for the men in their lives. Body to body communication alone will do everything for you as long as you know how not to interfere with what your own body wants to do. Eye contact will only help in this because you get in contact with something more genuine than whatever bullshit usually goes on in her head, which will make it much more plausible for you to actually like her and for her in turn - it will solidify your dominance, because she doesn't know what the fuck she's doing when she's looking into your eyes, while you know exactly what you're doing.

If you pull this off your a True Chad, and not only that, but your also with a woman who is truly good. Keep in mind though anon, every time you try to play this hand your gonna have to risk probably playing it with a woman who is not spiritually attuned to understanding the validity of this, even though I will concede that it is indeed valid in an ultimate sense when dealing with people of exceptional heart and decency, and that its undeniably an open secret that most women do start out as innocent and true but get ruined by experiences as they grow older. So yea, this is a very based and redpilled take, but good luck finding a person good hearted enough for it to latch onto and take root in for the long run. I will admit I have known several men who did achieve exactly this, and some even married women who are sisterly to them in all the “brotherly” types of ways, but these people are SUPER blessed bro, they are not just getting these things, they are being blessed with them and I mean that dead seriously. No offense to them though, but the two couples I have in mind only got married last year, and we will have to see for ourselves how rocky the road really gets in the years to come. Hopefully they will make it all the way to their death beds together.

>I'm not building a long-term relationship here. JUST the authentic encouter, idc what she thinks about it afterwards. While it's happening, she'll have no time to think, because I'm leading the thought process there and in my head fucking wind is howling. And even if she is in her head to an extent – cool, fine, something more significant is happening though, so I'd hope she'd be paying at least some attention, otherwise it's boring - TO ME, there needs to be a mutual acknowledgment of what is happening for it to work. All I want from her is to pay attention, as long as she does - idc what fantasy she's playing in her rational mind if she has time for that. The relationship is HERE NOW bitch, PAY ATTENTION.

D00d...please believe me when I tell you I know exactly what it is your driving at here and have had a place in myself when I was younger that felt precisely this way. But the malignant outgrowth of the defective pair-bonding from this does damage you do not seem to be accounting for, and even if you are a properly passionate, yet simultaneously detached man, as you make of a practice of this to the best of any mans ability, you yourself will suffer the personal damages of the fact it set off all the signals in your biology and psychology to initiate the signal for what the body and mind do when passionate genuine pair-bonding is initiated, and then when it is suddenly broken off, and thus goes into a malignant state.

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>>16080
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This is why when some cute 7chan looking type chick our same age tried to blow me on the train the other week I had to do the most difficult thing in my life and calmly walk away, and it really really was not easy man. Of course I wanted it to go over exactly as you described here, but I know from apparently having had more “sex” (sodomy) than you (with women) and being more aware of the nature of the biological and psychological effects of what is called pair-bonding, that even if the situation goes over perfectly initially its a coin toss whether the aftermath of it will be a problem .

50% chance it is and 50% it isn't is my best guess, there is no way to determine how clingy you or the woman will become after you behave these ways (fuck-em right in da poosie), and if you have only fucked one chick a few times and you even admitted she became demanding for more after that you already experienced how they tend to act when you have the most passionate experience with them and then just walk away. You were capable to be detached from this to an extreme degree (possibly without realizing it as such) because your a skitzoid tist, and tism makes us more detached from people in these ways when they do not match up to our interests our value systems or worldviews, but you likewise admitted the woman was not inclined to feel that way about you, in fact the polar opposite, she remained attracted and was still open for business as a result of this bad pair-bonding. Thats because she was operating of a normie value-system, and emotions and ego that round it out, you are not.

BTW if you left the chick in the dust while she was still screaming for you, your a true boss. I do not say this because it upsets women necessarily, but because if you do it right, this is the way to get them to go on loving you after your gone, because women respect men who leave them and do so lovingly, they hate men they leave because they always leave when they are disappointed, but if a man feels worthy of more than their shit and thus leave them showing they have a good opinion and confidence in themselves, the women love and respect him, albeit like a woman would, they do not express this via speech. Often times they may even pretend to deny it via speech, because they often express themselves as inverted in that regard. But in reality they are just pouting.

Thats what I did to my exgf (nearly exwife) and every single other friend I ever had growing up never broke up with any girl in their life, every single one of them had the women leave them because they were too pussy to break off relationships even when the women mentally and physically tortured them. That is why they are all effeminate sodomite degenerates now. And I simply just can not take it seriously anymore going into my 30s.

And do not think im hitting below the belt by saying it, not a single one of them can demonstrate they have even garnered so much as sober peace of mind in daily life, without being riddled with anxiety about fulfilling some addiction, even if its to pussy. As they live it out at present, they lack even that, the most basic of things utterly. They lack basic confidence and contentment in the natural state of their own skin. They are also demanding of things in life they do not having saying “If I only had X I would be happy.” and that is another thing that drives women away like crazy.

You do not seem to be falling into that so at this point in the conversation allow me to expressly point out that my warnings so far have been overstretched because upon further reflection I can sense you are being fully intellectually genuine when you say that you really do not care and this is just a thought exercise, and frankly your full effort participation in that is a certified mark of a champion. You have something most people never do.

Allow me to relight my cigar and put on Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers while we Run Down this Dream together, through the Iron Doors, past the Golden Gates, and into the very Heart of Zion. Because we gonna make it there fren, and we will stand together, as we did since the beginning, and as we shall in the end, in this life, as in the next, as Brothers. Cheers.

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>>16081
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You know, being a self described “Internet Kid” my whole life, I have occasionally had the privilege to hand out a very special reward. It is something we call the God of the Interwebz Award. And now this conversation having gone to a level that I can definitely say beyond a shadow of a doubt exceeds anything on this particular subject matter, one that is one of my favorites and that I have never had the privilege to speak with many people on, at all, let alone to this degree.

This has made YOU SIR the latest recipient of this prestigious award!

TRUMPETS BLAST

You have now received the latest edition of the God of the Interwebz award!

An oscuro cigar is put in your mouth as a procession of Angels all line up and shake your hand one by one

Congratulations anon! I do not know how you did it! And by that I mean, I know exactly how you did it, because that is how I knew you had earned it. This is a landmark occasion! A true mile stone in the life of any strapping young Mad-Lad!

Oh and by the way...you ever notice Life and Wife are only one letter apart? You better have boy. I did, because im runnin down a fuckin dream right now.

Champagne bottles pop as a Seraphim gives you the Holy Grail full of the Water of Life

Speech! Speech! Speech!

Please feel free to give a speech and take your final Samsaric Victory Lap, because you are definitely worthy of it. Web 1.0 posters rule the world, both in this life and in the next. The 420chan refugees will inherit the Earth.

>You misunderstand me. I don't want them to be detached from that part, I just don't want them to think too much about it at that moment and allow the her body itself to receive all of that relationship/fantasy whatever you want to call it - directly from my body and she CAN if I'm genuinely in love. Also let's be real none of them are realistically looking for masculine type heart based friendship (not even men are looking for that in their friendships, not really, not yet) in their romantic relationships unless as an afterthought and even that in rare cases like if they marry a guy and are extremely evolved in general.

Ok that is valid, and I do agree. Still though, please do critical research on pair bonding. Both the good and bad of it before you decide to experiment with this by really treating women you fuck that way. You know the pair-bonding thing doesn’t kick in lest you have vaginal intercourse though, right? So if you just do this by mingling and flirting its perfectly safe. When you fuck its a coin-toss. You can reduce the likelihood, of course, of a bad outcome by vetting the crap out of chicks before you fuck them, something most men are so stupid they do after they fuck women, and by then its too late.

>I'm glad she can still manage to get wet with that kind of sexual play, but idk, god bless both
parties who enjoys that sex, yeah, God bless.

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>>16082
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Yea, I mean, as human beings made in Gods Image, bless them, and bless them all. But to be real here, God does not open people up to graces because they are practicing sodomy, they may be opened up to graces by other things in their lives, but the practice of sodomy reduces the ability to receive graces, and my personal bio-assay of Semen Retention corroborates that STARKLY, frankly so much it makes a cup of coffee feel like a low dose of pure mescaline. Semen is an extract of blood anon. Perhaps its time I refer you to what Master Paracelsus taught on such a subject. Perhaps this conversation is just getting started. Do you want to give your blood away lest it go directly into the womans Heart? Personally I do not. That is how I lost graces all my life, and now im abstaining, retaining, and obtaining so hard if I keep going at this rate (((they))) will be giving me the hemlock because of it someday. They gonna call me Saint Stephen because I stay getting Stones, and I will die getting Stoned.

I can smell through my screen you have the brains and the heart to go to that level of life, and probably already are, but shit bro, I can smell good, but not THAT good. That is for you to know and for me to hope and pray.

>Ok, finally we're agreeing. That's definitely not what they're looking for in their conscious mind, definitely not in the romantic context on this planet at this time.

Correction, we actually did in an uncanny way the entire time. The issue was in the beginning of the thread I thought you were like 20 and intending to go around experimenting with all those thought exercises to such an extent that you risked ending up wretched, if not dead. It seems you have raised this conversation to being max kino. Thank you. I actually was waiting for 7chan to get this good, I have only been going on it for a few months now.

>Because, ultimately, even biologically if you pay close attention - we are the same kind of being.

In some senses this is true, because we are both made in the Image of God, but there have been suggested some varying ideas on how this came about, some of which are brand new to me that I find very possible. In the Treatise on the Reintegration of Beings it states that women were originally created as thought-forms from the First Adam, in its Pre-Fall State as the Divine Androgyne. This concept had me very intrigued and the explanations given as for why this was supposedly substantiated and proven were even more interesting. Instead of going into that all here I am just going to refer you to the text for your own private reviewing. I do not believe its true beyond a shadow of a doubt, but the argument given was pretty friggin good if I am being honest. Overlaying this with the story of Adam and Lilith from whatever that old jewish fragmented text is that im suddenly too high on weed olive oil to remember the name of, also was a pretty fertile field im gonna need to ponder over for some time to come. In that version Adam and Lilith battle within one Androgene being for dominance over one another as the aspects thereof until Lilith rejects Adam and splits off from him. But none the less that a breadcrumb trail for you to follow if your interested or dismiss if your not, not trying to derail the thread with all that.

>We are all exactly the same, we are made out of exactly the same stuff. And that alone makes the statement obsolete. You could make an argument in romantic relationships, but even that - it has an open end and when you look carefully where it leads - it leads right back to it - basic relationship between one being and another being. Basic friendship relationship. Basic love. Basic creative instinct. Basic curiosity.

Yes, yet again your showing you know the Secret. But your still trying to paint it as if its a practicality for US to seek this out in women who are not ready to evolve into that spiritual dimension of life the way we are, and PERHAPS im not entirely incorrect in suggesting your autism is convincing you that its got to more possible than it is for others because it was EVIDENTLY so possible for people like me and you? I could be projecting here, because I will admit that was exactly how I myself saw life for many years when I was still sexually active, but now I see that those core inner truths are to be pursued more profitably and more realistically and sustainably in Spiritual Brotherhoods, which our thread is a microcosm of at this point far as I am concerned. I used to fester badly for years over a thought that went something like “Well if its this easy for me, a dick in the dirt idiot junky sodomite buffoon, then what the fuck is stopping anyone else who is clearly even more intelligent than me???” But that was all a gross misapprehension of the nature of things, and im no longer under such delusions.

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>>16083
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>Nah, just get her to not fear you and to feel rapport and if there's any initial sparks AT ALL, you can find them and build on them. Sure might have to take it real slow at first if the sparks are small, maybe even separate a few times, kinda like fishing. TALK TO HER BODY, NOT HER. Keep her ego occupied in the mean time if you have to - by NOT SAYING ANYTHING SERIOUS. Troll
her lightly, make her feel comfortable. She'll soon pick up that the main conversation right now is not happening in the verbal realm. Even if not soon - she'll pick it up eventually. Doesn't matter.

Now we are agreeing YET AGAIN, because this is what I meant in my previous posts about detachment and teasing and all those types of things. This way you described it is how the girl almost blew me when we got off the train after I told her how to take a quick piss while we were on the train. We caught a spark and built some steam off a grain of salt. But none the less, the key to all of it is really simply this, that as a man, you must always know, even if you are the biggest Chad in the world, men do NOT win over women when it comes to the first move. When men make the first move, its all about judging the woman's reaction and if she green-lights you. You do not win them over by the manner in which you make the first move unless you are tactless and do know how to simply be naturally attractive, and that is a bit too autistic for this thread to get into and I already believe you have demonstrated your fully fluent in that anyway. All you can do in this regard is express genuine confidence and do it in a slight of hand subtle manner, you have to learn how to walk up to women and be like “Hey bitch, are you ready?” in a very subtle way and just see how they react.

What happens is men have to have lynx’s eyes as they say, and notice when women give them the subtle gesture, or alternatively when they reciprocate being provoked by men. After you catch that gesture or reciprocated provocation its a green light to go all the way down the line. Thats the line you always want to be slightly over, but for clarification I only mean in terms of whats socially considered acceptable, not what women are bluntly but silently and subtly saying they want badly. For example, society teaches us that its offense and unacceptable and maybe even illegal to even suggest that women who like you truly would be stoked if you gave them The Donald Trump. But the irony is that the Zion Don himself was completely correct when he said that if women like you, then you can just grab them by the pussy, and that you should do this if you intend to screw them. He never said that you should just do that and walk away, the implication was “If chicks dig you, and you intend to fuck them, grab em by the pussy, and that is how you shake their hand.”

>I thought you'd be 36-40

I had a very nasty case of precocious puberty (traumatic experience but a real miserable miracle, and like spergers, a curse turned into a blessing really, that is another book to write one day). Also growing up from a young age (11 onward) all my main friends were older and from 14-19 most of my closest friends were 2-7 years older. So I always had this weird thing were I had a younger group of friends and an older group of friends, so I was always either the old man or the kid.

>relationship WOULD eventually dissolve, because her ego would decide to dissolve it, but an encounter in itself is not impossible and it CAN be authentic.

That is all correct. It can and often will be authentic. Whether its spiritually conducive or not is something maybe we can shake hands and agree to disagree on? Before we decide on that though, let me say that I am in a place in life where I just can not buy into the k!ke scam of “sex is sodomy and sodomy is sex!” anymore. Its just not real anon, it is not fucking real. Sex is when you blast nuts in womens pussies, and women are not really chill with that anymore.

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>>16084
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Can you imagine if I was so insane and autistically out of touch that when the girl tried to blow me on the train I was like “Hey im gonna fuck you, and its gonna be spontaneous and authentic and all that, but the one stipulation is, im gonna blast one straight in you so hard its gonna give you a bell-ringer, and I need you to tell me under oath right now if your on the pill, because if you are im not gonna do it, and if you arent im doing that right now...bitch.”

Or perhaps I would be so insane that I would not ask her and just simply do it without announcing it. Either way, after doing such I would be in a huge, huge pickle. That being because I have zero intention of fathering the child or being with the woman. The least serious thing that could come of this is a seriously problematic pair-bonding effect, because I do not know for sure, but seeing as vaginal intercourse has the strongest pair-bonding effect out of any behavior we know of, I would bet my bottom dollar nutting inside a womans pussy increases that, because ultimately no experience is more primordial in the third.

That would be the only way any man could fiddle around with women if he was not going to be a sodomite in the process. So why is it that anyone (you or otherwise) should be practicing sodomy as you keep suggesting, if as I gather correctly (maybe I didn’t?) your expressing by your posts that you want to fuck women but you do not want to impregnate them? Im not saying this to be combative, but you've proven yourself worthy of explaining yourself to me on how you see sex vs sodomy, and why your expressing interest in non procreative “sex” (classic textbook sodomy)?

>As you would be right to question the ultimate value of engaging with the 'representations' of the divine feminine at all, rather than engaging it directly. But I guess if you love this species - sure go ahead. That's one possible motivator.

For the love of Christ anon. I get it. If only there was no hypnotic propaganda campaign to make women into something demonic (which is the basest (like literally base, not based) form of both sexes, that of the demons) and likewise men, we could just engage women this way much more safely. But they have turned it into a situation where its just not like that anymore, the decency and respect of such things is gone. People have no grasp on the sheer sanctity of what your describing here, they simply have no fucking clue, and its a bummer, but ALL THAT is not just some shit show mistake. To believe such is a serious form of sin and purely sacrilegious. God put up the circus for us so we could all learn how to play in the show anon, do not forget that is why your here. You are here to know the nature of Binary Dynamics, and thus to understand both Good and Evil anon. And your going to learn it, eventually.

>Im
>Runnin
>Down
>A
>Dream

>Too soft for me. Lack a bit of character. But I obviously recognize what you're saying. However, ultimately I need wasian, because there are extremely beautiful, but also they have some of that european master race... fierceness for a lack of a better word. Also their bodies are more godlike ultimately for me, for the same reason. Not that I care that much about the body.

As someone who honors the absolute sanctity of the races I would never say I believe in interbreeding with anyone who is not European like myself, so when I say they are hot and that it would be cool to fuck them, forgive me for doing so, because ultimately im speaking from the goyslop part of myself. What I really mean to say, which I will now say in a hyper literal autistic sense, is that they are sexy and arouse me, im inclined to be aroused by them and they probably screw just as hard as blacks and whites or any other race, and we all go hard. But in no way do I think any race is more “sexy” in that regard than the next. I can separate being aroused by a woman of any race from recognizing that only a white woman would be capable to function to be a suitable help-meet for a white man. I should get out of the habit of thinking and thus speaking from my basest self, forgive me for that, for I have not outgrown every one of the lesser sins.

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>>16085
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>Been a while I'll consider

My guy. I failed for years, and now that im doing it im never looking back. It makes a cup of coffee like half a hit of mescaline. It really is so fucking good. And also you release powerful pheromones so if you do want to have positive interactions or communication with women just because you feel you have not done that enough to satisfy you in life (and thats not unnatural or bad I do not think, just something to think about carefully and maturely) you can peak womens interest in a way that men who ejaculate, even just sometimes, can not. It shoots your T up so fucking high anon, everyone whos in their 30s who does it says you feel like your 18, and now that im just getting into it, they are completely correct. I feel better than I ever felt in my entire life.

>Until then, she should be savoring if I as much as come into proximity with her body. And anyhow, let me tease her a little bit, why go straight for the kill if we can take the long and scenic route? Just because I'm not willing to go the full 100%, doesn't mean I can't go 0.001% and see how both of us like that.

Top-Fucking-Kek. This is exactly what I did to the girl on the train and she went absolutely nuts. I gotta admit it shocked me a lot how much she went from 0-100. Definitely do that man. That is a good feeling when you do it right, and women are glad to be treated that way. Really fucking glad. One time I gave a girl a hit of acid when she was on her work shift because she had a dead bear tattoo on her neck and she also reacted the same way. Both instances had these bitches unironically hopping up and down. You ever seen girls start pogo-ing because they are so excited? Its a fun experience. You just come on hard and aloof at the same time and it works every time, unless they just do not find you physically attractive.

>Well, I don't know if it was Jung or who suggested it to you, but I found it surprising that you recognized the feminine as the unconscious. I have come to the same conclusion. It's a void. It's space.

It was actually Kabbalah first, and then I found out about how Jung drew up a system of his own that was proven valid through its Kabbalistic correspondence. Keep in mind im not trying to get into the superfluous k!kery aspects of Kabbalah, because like everything else worth its salt in Judaism (and even all variants of Abrahamism ultimately) is found in the prototypes which the Jews adopted in Babylon and Egypt, because as the Bible correctly states, the original patriarchs were not even biologically Jewish, they were Sumerian, Babylonian, and then the lineage was revived through Moses who had his knowledge handed down from Egypt because he was inducted into the private teachings of the Egyptian royalty. Also the entire Book of Genesis and even a bunch from Exodus was proven in the 1800s to be a rehashing of Sumerian cuneiform tablets. So there is what people call proto-Qabala and that is really where I got it from initially. Also that men are the conscious.

>Women at the end of the day (as consciousness itself) are no different in that regard. Even if they do represent what they represent. The feminine doesn't exist. Maybe you don't quite see it that way, but I know that wherever you may go and talk about the nature of femininity and so on, very few will find it palatable or agree with you that it is essentially nothing, so just you labeling it as the unconscious is appreciated.

This is where the Sephiroth and Qlippoth situation comes in I mentioned earlier. They take things like lets say, the truth of what your expressing here, which is there, and they graft onto that innate primordial truth a proclivity for people to interpreted it wrongly. See everything like, lets say, troonery/traps/sissies/zippertits/etc comes from this. Because yea, like Jung and Kabbalah/Qabala/Cabala say, every man is internally a woman and every woman internally a man. I was beating around the bush with everything I said earlier about women and men being expressions of this, because how we understand ourselves internally is the inverse of what we appear as in the third, but this is getting a bit heavy and if your not already familiar with it to a point of your own satisfaction instead of trying to talk to me about it (who is admittedly not a master in all this by any means) you should just read books bro. This is such heavy discussion we need to turn to the real Masters on issues like this and I will not even pretend I am capable to discuss these things better than them or with you a point that gives me more satisfaction then to refer unto them instead of attempting to hold conversation.

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>>16086
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All I will say about this is, that its like saying “OH FUCK DAWG, THERE IS LIKE...ORGANS...INSIDE ME, LETS TAKE EM OUT AND LOOK AT EM!” and suddenly once you do, your broken and can not be repaired. The unconscious has to remain as such, and the conscious has to remain as such, this is why God designed them as such. Well it has to remain as such till we begin to transcend, and guess what, we already proved we are at the very beginning of this right now. No Cap FRFR AN GHAD MUH NYGGAH!

But for the most best and most blessed of us, the silver lining of modernity is that we can actually access this information in such a way as to learn it through the mistakes of others, and while some must suffer for making ill-fated decisions we can actually rise above this Purgatorial Samsaric course of Spiritual Evolutionary Development and Transcend. Brother in Dharma, there are no hoes here, your going to generate Inner Fire, or your going to DIE.

But do not let me drive you wrong here friend, its not some sadistic Demiurgic Hell, its just a gym, and a dream, for the most blessed of us, not because anyone else loses out ultimately, but because the fabric of reality itself is pure consciousness evolving infinitely. And we are going, to the next level of it anon, together, right now. And if I stick around long enough sometime this week im gonna do half a hit of mescaline (havent tripped in like half a year because im doing heavy integration after tripping for the past 16 straight, tripped more last year than ever before in my life actually) and some cannabis olive oil and green tea and browse the boards here. I noticed Dr. Mario was posting on here and we should get the 420refugee thing going again. Its time, fuck kirt, its time.

>But I guess I don't want to dive too deep into that, because it would go into straight metaphysics and I
doubt our languages will align there and I doubt either of us have much to gain from that discussion. Especially not in the written format.

Definitely agree. Can not hold that expectation of ourselves till we are first read on the subjects sufficiently.

>Well, if we are gonna choose the lightness direction option as a civ, I don't believe that this is where we are generally going. There will remain strong sex polarity in our species, but you will see more and more of the spectrum and everything in between. Which is a natural consequence of expanding consciousness. If we go the dark path - it can go in any direction you can imagine, but obviously not hyper functional or natural.

This is exactly what I mean by “Sephiroth and Qlippoth” situation.

>But I do like the relative intensity coming on into the zeitgeist.

You better ride that silver lining, bruh. That is when “Chasing the Dragon” becomes “Rising the Serpent”. I call it the Cosmic Trampoline Clap-Back. Because as soon as it all hits the bottom, the conditions are set for it to have all the inertia and tension to snap back to the top. This is actually how the Philosopher’s Stone works, if im being perfectly honest. Hopefully that reference isn’t lost, and thus wasted on you. I have confidence it wont be though. Stay blessed. Never change my guy.

>ETs especially gonna flip all our social, sexual, friendship and every relational understandings like none of us are yet capable of imagining.

Yea, and very likely its gonna coincide with the admittance of the inter-dimensional nature of being, because many of the so called ET’s are inter-dimensional activity. Im not riding or betting on that being the case but none the less I think its entirely possible, and I have noticed way more people these past few years are dropping heavy redpills on the inter-dimensional nature of being. I mean common everyday people, not like some fucking media thing.

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>>16087
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>And even if it goes to shit, I have no doubt it will still be quite a spectacle to behold. We're lucky, anon.

It was sealed for us since the beginning brother, its going to be the best thing that ever happened to us, but the worst thing that ever happened to them. Get ready, its Life in the Fast Lane from now on baby.

>Ok, can you clarify the first and second part. Not a fan of manipulative tactics

Its not manipulative, neither from the standpoint of the men or women, its the way women remain hip to a divine childlike nature that is bred out of most men but that any man worth his salt retains. And just like Salt its always actually cool and hot. I said above somewhere about how somethings you described and even did were perfect examples of this so, yea...that.

>I don't know if I want to cross any boundaries unless I can be bothered to care enough to make it
right.

Yes, and this is why I did not fuck the girl on the train. Because im speaking as if to say, always be over the line when you intend to wife, not just in something experimental, that would be a disaster. You gotta be all in when your doing that for real man. Do not just practice sodomy with chicks, that is not real, its k1ke garbage.

>For me what I wrote was basically about not having to deal with the female traps that so many of them think they can put men through for no reason whatsoever other than hoeflation that in most cases has absolutely nothing to do with me who wants 0 of anything sexual from them.

Another reason on my sky-high pile of reasons why I decided to go full volcell. Its really so fucking good brother, men sleep on this shit more than mescaline and ibogaine, and I would not have thought that possible a decade ago. Its so fucking funny how much k1kes wanna black bag semen retention or since now they realize they can’t muster that move, they have decided to pander it to effeminate men who want pussy, as a way for them to get even more, because of the powerful attraction through the pheromone release. Same thing with quitting alcohol my brother. You go full off alcohol and its like a whole new life. I wish I was joking. I would have never believed this 12 years ago when I would shoot up 5 bags of H for breakfast and smoke a pack of unfiltered camels while I prepared another 5 bag shot for lunch. I just would never have believed it bro.

>It's just to make my life easier, not to get them wet per se.

Clarify for me here why that is the case? How does this make your life easier?

>I'm also racist and think most people are niggers of one sort or another.

Well I mean, lets get to the fucking bottom of this right now, why don’t we? Do you mean that those who are genuinely what the Bible called Goyim are such? By the original definition of the authors of the Bible, not the k1kes who pretend like they have a valid interpretation and translation thereof? Because in the original Kabbalistic sense of the notion, yea, that's indeed a fact of life. But this, nor being a Jew, was understood on the basis of biology, because it was written that it was in the Soul that the difference between the Jew and the Goy was found. The k1kes are full of fucking shit when they try to say that being a Jew or a Goy is a biological thing nowadays, because Adam, Able, Enoch, Joseph, Noah, and Abraham, all were NOT JEWISH BY BLOOD. But this does not in any manner, not even remotely, make Goyim sub-human by technical definition, nor does it make them not in the image of God. It just makes them infantile and barely evolved souls, who have yet to evolve to the point of being Jews. So thus if your telling me you do not honor all men in the image of God because you see them as “niggers” that is legit blasphemy bro, and you should repent of that. But if alternatively to all these, what you simply just mean is that people are reduced in their primordial humanity by their own willingness to let in the vampires of life and thus they become husks and peels and shells and become decadent, degenerate, and niggardly, and as such are not to be honored as true men, but instead are to be seen as niggers, that would be completely correct, but this is yet again just another trait of someones low state of evolution and voluntary sin, not a matter of whether they are made in the image of God, anon.

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>>16088
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>Oh dam, I do remember. Might even have a screencap somewhere. Did ibogaine a few times. Relatively small doses. Amazing substance!

Did you talk to me on that thread? What doses did you do and how was your experience? Pure Ibogaine HCL??? I have some PTA and bark I might microdose one day. Would love to hear your report on it. I am so glad the crew saved my life. I have been clean off opiates for almost 3 years now, and recently, even though I was no where even close to alcoholism, I have decided to quit it as well for life, got about 3ish months of that now. God bless Tom Leonard, God bless Chris Jenks, and God bless Howard Lotshoff.

>Btw is lainchan any good nowadays?

It catches a very very mixed bag. My (former) friend who introduced me to it became a trap after being the dude who got the most pussy in his teen years but still became became a anxious and depressed, narcissistic, hyper autistic, agoraphobic, autogynophilic alcoholic, junky homosexual. And that is a lot of the type of culture on there, as im sure you gathered. But there are some 420chan refugees who keep it worth going on, and also some extremely good threads, or bad threads with a few extremely good posts. I am actually one of the main posters on it the past couple years. It goes quite a bit faster than 7chan but not that fast and the jannies are absolute fgots. Jannies have erased posts of mine and of other people I was speaking to multiple times. They will erase posts if the subject matter is too real or if the pic-related is too real. They definitely are very pro trap/troon over there, and pro effeminacy (in the wrong and spiritually in-conducive sense, obviously not the genuine sense). But now im actually getting sick of halfchan and all the bot posting, shill posting, ai posting, captchas, stupid people, angry people, all of it. Its gotten really fast but only like 5% is worth looking at. I will sticking only with lain and 7 going forward, that seems to work the best honestly. Do you know any other good chans?

>the janitors are 20 times superior than what we had, we were lucky if they were just gone for a while

The 420 jannies? I’m not sure I ever posted anything on those boards that would piss off a jannie, so im not sure if your saying they tended to remove good posts like the ones on lain? Hopefully the jannies on here do not get pissed by my posts. If they do, I really do not care though. I kept demanding the jannie to perma ban me from lain recently and they wouldnt so I just gave up.

BTW great pics, I enjoy these chicks being hot without them having to be doing hornt like all other races do whenever they need to be sexy in a picture. Frankly Nips definitely do do plenty of hornt, but they also are just sexy in ordinary life so there are great pics of them that are not hornt. Hornt is ruining the internet and making society even more hyper-sexual. Its refreshing to be aroused by women who are decently attractive enough to be sexy in ordinary clothes, and to not have to shove their ass in your face in order for you to be aroused by them. Even though its equally as true that there is nothing that beats just seeing a naked woman walking away from you with a mean ass SWISH SWISH SWISH.

Nip women are also super passive and docile in a tender way. Their ethnocentrism is hot and spiritually appreciable. I respect nips, but only those who are not bugmen type folks, but dear LORD the bugmen type of Nips are literally hellish. Probably would be able to find some expression of the Anima that takes the form of a primo Nip chick if you dig through the Akashik hard enough, the fact they exist in the third makes this a given. Watch out though, would not want to go about making any Tulpas without intending to, unfortunately that is how a lot of poor bastards find out about them, and by then its too late. Its how one that took the form of Miku drove my friend who showed me Lainchinz over the edge of his sanity, (obviously its his fault for creating this thing though, literally demanded a vampire show up and then let it in when it did) and people have reported making them in the form of Lain as well. When the Road gets Rocky, and the Rocky go Pro, and the rest of them ho’s just go for another Lap around the Track, while WE rise up on the Wind that blows.

BTW I would never assume anyone could possibly be 20 on the basis of how your talking to me now, this is clearly the speech of someone who I would presume is roughly the same age as me if not older. I generally do not presume an anon’s age at all, but you already admitted that the first few posts could easily be misconstrued that way. And no 420chan-refugee is gonna be in there 20s at all these days really, unless they are like 28 or older. Unless its like, one of those, HIP YOUNG CYBERPUNKS whos looking to get one up the ole bussy.

CAUSE WE AINT OUTCHERE MAKIN BUX, WE OUT HERE BREAKIN BUCKS, CHA NO WUT IM SAYUN MEH NYHIGGUH?

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>>16089
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Thank God that God has damned the modern world, absolutely damned it to eternal hell.

What the fuck is up with this stinking goyslop for the soul timeline anon? I just wanted to hang out with the Divine Feminine and Grill…

This timeline has me in constant state of a cross between kermit sips tea and I just wanted to grill. Kek

Jk we are in the right timeline and truthfully the best one, ever. Thank God im not serious and in reality im grilling just fine. Thank GOD. Hope its the same for you chief.

Hopefully this post was good enough to earn me a perma-ban, because typing this stuff in my word processor is more fun than anything else. Once you evolve enough you do not even need to turn to externals, but you can get all you need from within you, and you can experience it as giving you more pleasure and more contentment than externals ever did. Jesus Christ told us this, and every day, He delivers.

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>>16066
I do not recall this.

>>16076
>I implied is that youth means less time on earth to have had experiences in, and to have the types of experiences that people only have which sometimes take many decades. Also its a fact the human brain locks into a highly fixed mode at 27 years old, after people are 27 their sense of life and identity is pretty much set in stone, lest very extenuating circumstances change that. That is why I made sure to quit a decade of opiate addiction at 27.

The brain development theory was found out to be wrong. Your brain doesn't finish development at 25.
In fact, after 25, it starts slowing down.

Also, people locked into personal identity around thirteen. What happened was around the eighteenth century, we extended childhood from age twelve to twenty one. Add on top of that the over promotion of college and we have a society where people think 25-30 is the start of "true adulthood."

Society infantilises young people, actively smothering their potential so that the elders can still feel relevant.

Also, experience isn't universal nor always time-dependent.

In fact, if you hadn't noticed, the minimum age for marriage, parenthood, and career was went up in the past century.

>. If that's not an industrial skill, I don't know what is. Killing faggots like you at scale, that ought to have some value at least.

I wonder if you speak like this in meat space. Probably not because you'd get your ass whooped. I'm so tired of people like you always blaming "faggots" or "niggers" for your own misery.

>So take us to school, why don’t you? Come on wretch, im a willing student. Give me your best effort post and dare me to take your redpills. Im chomping at the bit over here anon! Just try and give me some redpills that you think I will not take. I do not eat food kiddo, I live strictly on redpills, mescaline, cannabis, ibogaine, bufo-toad venom, and oscuros. TRY ME. Right now. I piss more acetone and drink more methanol while I post than any man that ever was on any of the alt chans. And thats just an appetizer before I follow up with some Aurum Potabile and Elixir of Life. You have to be at least this philosophical to post in this bread anon.

You're the one spouting nonsense acting like you know everything. Typical pretentious verbal diarrhea.
I read posts like yours on 4chan, LeftyPol, Leftychan, YouTube, etc. And it's always the same type. Guys who internalised a bit too action-adventure stories and maybe academically gifted somewhat but they have a self-righteous outlook.

>For me its easy and comes naturally and feels pleasurable, for you, I presume, you see it as a pickle and a bummer, so naturally you would project that onto me. Im unironically relaxing and unwinding here. This is how I relax. You are either trolling, misinterpreting, or stupid. Also you misjudged OP if you interpreted them as seeing this as a pickle either. They admitted it started out as a troll. It was a damn good one because it got me haha.

The "I was trolling" is always the typical excuse used by "redpill" folk.
I read the dialogue and I don't think both of you were joking. Especially the pretentious pseudo mysticism lingo and allusions to Judeo Christianity despite talking about women in such a patronizing manner and glorifiing drug use.

And calling your fellow males "faggots" for not conforming to your comic book impression of masculinity.
Or rather because you're butthurt that you were overlooked and they weren't.

I've read too many posts like yours back in my day.

>>16078
>Low effort, condescending, unhelpful, hard hearted posters can not even type a post better than my first page.
Imageboards are an amazing thing huh? They allow pretentious folk whose only skill is high level vocabulary to shit up the place with their contempt for "normies". Just when I was getting a break from redpillers they come back with a vengeance. And to 7chan of all places.
This was my last bastion away from the bullshit and y'all ruined it

You're no better than CrystalCafe cunts.

>>16073
>You're not wrong on that. As I said in the OP - I think it's at least for the very most part - men to blame for the whole thing. But, men are just a reflection of the general state of society. As I later explained, women too are autonomous beings, should not be view solely from the sexual lense even if they themselves choose to operate mostly from there and then I said that they too have living beating fucking hearts, so that should tell you everything you need to know about what they ultimately are and their potential.

It's not just sexualization.
In fact, sexualization is a manifestation of romanticism in a way.
If sex drive was the cause of simping alone, that problem would be simpler. Men are also romantics, that's the problem. In fact. I would say in a "conservative" society, simping would be much worse.

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>>16076
>I piss more acetone
Nigger, you dry fast?
>>16078
Haha, I like that image. But it'd be so hard to keep all the egos in check especially if you don't plan to be constantly around them all. But I'd hope my wives passionately love one another.

>>16076
>I piss more acetone
Nigger, you dry fast






>mans dominance over himself than anything else, and this is what women primordially search for in men just like I told you earlier in the thread. That gets overlapped with social relationships and hierarchies but ultimately its rooted within the individual.
Yeah, the unique masculine archetype that each of us is.

>men who do not care about cooming but instead will teasingly goad on women to make the woman super horny. Its like parents tease children in a NONSEXUAL manner but grafted onto the sexual nature of a female adult who is a closer expression to a primordial child than an adult man
Yeah. For me, I manifest something similar, but basically I'll "fuck" her in the most insanely subtle ways, which she ultimately picks up on intuitively. Like ANY kind of touch or even just saying something to her. Idk if thats exactly teasing per se (I'm not really social or interested in people let alone women so opportunities for that are limited) but I think the effect is similar. I'll gently touch her neck but in my mind it's something way more drastic and sexual. Whoopsie. I fucked her just by touching her hands. It's a feedback mechanism, because I'm just doing what I feel like, deflowering her, but not explicitly and she feels it and it gets her hornier and hornier until anything and everything is hypersexual. I think hands are really fucking sexy by the way. But the problem with me is that the entire female body is sexy as fuck. Every part of the body is sexual to me. Also I'm horny as fuck so Idk maybe that's the culprit.

>damages of the fact it set off all the signals in your biology and psychology to initiate the signal for what the body and mind do when passionate genuine pair-bonding is initiated, and then when it is suddenly broken off
Noted

>but if a man feels worthy of more than
Yeah, initially I left the country for like a month or so. I didn't have the heart to just dump her but tbh I already saw that it was infatuation before it even all went down.. anyhow, after that I still fooled around with her a little bit. I let her down slowly. Last properly sexual experience was maybe a year after and I just like came and she was mine. I know she still love me and I know she still love me for some years after that, but eventually kind of intentionally, but I managed to convince her that I'm not "big man". I think it's for the better. But even so, for all these years that she was still dreaming about me, I am appreciative of how non-interfering and nonclingy she was. Really good sport. This is what allowed the relationship to dissolve beautifully and softly. The thing that finally convinced her by my estimation that I'm not worthy of dreaming about was when she asked "so what are you up to, anon?" And I said "serving people" lol - she was visibly upset by that. Meanwhile I was giggling like a child and perceptibly or imperceptibly mocking her a little bit. Anyhow, I think this did the job. Not intentionally, but at that point I had no romantic interest, so I guess on some level intentionally. Well ok, I still appreciate her for the raw value and I think the whole experience was divinely orchestrated - I really am very thankful for her for all the things that you taught me, which I think very few women could have. On top of that I was genuinely in love. It was fucking perfect and at that time of my life I was still very fucking desperate in terms of my existential situation. Not exactly happy-go-lucky. But getting there. Anyhow, I don't want to go into the weeds here.

>sober peace
When I calm down now, especially in dead silent environment (which is very prevalent here in Winter where I live) - I feel peace that surprises even me. It's reminiscent of my early psychedelic experiences. But now all I have to do is do nothing.

>ever notice Life and Wife are only one letter apart? You better have boy. I did, because im runnin down a fuckin dream right now.
First time. Yeah, listening now. I grew up on classic rock even as I rarely come for it now. Although yesterday was looping for a few hours Metallica fade to Black slowed and reverb. A bit of Billy idol here and there sometimes. But nowadays it often takes some heavy phonk or beloved selected goa to hit the spots, nah but I listen everything, point is I grew up on classic rock.

>Speech! Speech! Speech
Nigger faggots are gonna nigger faggot. I am him - nigger faggot. Swerve.

>You know the pair-bonding thing doesn’t kick in lest you have vaginal intercourse though, right?
I do not agree, but honestly idgaf about penetration. Idgaf about sex even. I'll take her 66 value points and completely platonic over 65 value points and the most mind-blowing sex you can imagine. That's how much I prefer to have something real. I have the universe. I don't need her to have something to fuck. And again - for me the fun is in the long scenic route. Penetration does not in any way guarantee the proper journey. And sometimes if you do it right the first kilometer of a 1000 km journey can be more significant than flying by straight into the destination. MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT. The one time that I think is the most significant when a woman touched me, I just came up to DJ girl that was in a by that time empty club and said "when are you planning to finish your set?" She was like confused then looked at her co-dj girlfriend and was like "why do you care" I said "you don't have to play here just for me alone, you can go home" which was my genuine sentiment and to my surprise, she grabbed my hand, for like one second and squeezed it. That's the thing that stood out the most for me of all my physical interactions with women. I never saw her after. I still remember that touch though.

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>>16083
>(((they))) will be giving me the hemlock because of it someday
Um, yeah, careful with that, bro.

>to go to that level of life, and probably already are, but shit bro, I can smell good, but not THAT good. That is for you to know and for me to hope and pray.
I live a life of a retard. Look at the picture in this post >>16083 this is the kind of po leece I'm dealing with.
Nah, I'm probably not on your level unless you count being retarded as being on your level.

>to the text for your own private reviewing
I do not read. Not for the last 7 years or so. But, yeah according to my knowledge, the Adam was created first by hybridization of anunnaki with local monkeys and Eva was made from Adam. Or something like that.

Very rudimentary familiarization with the jewish texts so don't engage with me on that as equal.

>until Lilith rejects Adam and splits off from him.
Oh damn, that does sound like something. Well, I'm not even sure who Lilith is. Forgive my ignorance.

>but now I see that those core inner truths are to be pursued more profitably and more realistically and sustainably
Yeah spiritual brotherhood sounds sexy af. I might be to jaded at this point though. For one on earth. I would perhaps accept an ET society if I'm not too far down the road of loosing any shred of humanity (which happens REAL quick if it choose to go down that route and you go so far that you're unlikely to find your way back) in me to no longer be able or be interested in getting it back. Ofc i don't know many aliens personally in my life, at least not consciously, but the truth is that regardless - Infinity is much vaster than ANY egoic individualized 4th density society even if pretty much fully telepathic. I'm not the kind who likes waiting around (unless I'm really literally living like a retard like I mostly am at the moment obviously, but let me go at my own pace m-kay?) when I get excited - I'll take any friend available in the moment.

>men do NOT win over women when it comes to the first move
Well not a serious thought, but I think you can make a VERY non-generous offer and completely pull back until such time she appreciates it, even if it means pull back forever. But I don't think that it is fundamentally wrong to make an offer. The big mistake is making the second offer/invitation before the first one was properly appreciated. ESPECIALLY in text communication. I mean, you may get away with it if it's a month later, but yeah it's just stupid fucking topic not worth discussing. I mean, regardless of what works, why would I be chasing her in the first place? So that I can run a charity on someone? So that I can adopt a child?

Speaking of that... "I see that those core inner truths are to be pursued more profitably and more realistically..." I do notice a shift in my mental state. It is further away from awe. When I consider most things that I happen to consider when I engage the topics of all of these possibilities of relationships. Rarely do I find my state not diminished in scope and breadth. Yes, true interesting stuff, at least in this life, may not lie within sexuality. Not because she's a bad microcosm representation, but because of the fact that I'd have to be more involved with society than I really care to. Too many boundaries to set, too many bullshit to sort. Why even begin at all when there are friends right now offering themselves to you with no bullshit except maybe perhaps a little bit of frostiness. But that's just the nature of how it goes when you are adopted into a society where you are less than a drop in an ocean. Considerable growth is natural. That growth, well, any growth, means expansion in both directions - the light and the dark. It's only natural that you will feel a bit Frosty at first. Or forever. I don't know. All I know that there are real friends out there. Many mysteries.

>>16084 were you the one who posted this image on b? I have it in my archives. I appreciate it.

>>16085
>after doing such I would be in a huge, huge pickle.
Hahahaha

Well, I don't want to impregnate them for obvious reasons. Ask for the sodomy aspect of it. First of all, I masturbate. Second, I would like to perhaps experience another woman in my life even if I don't actively dream about it or seek it out. But it's a theoretical exercise for if one fell in my lap along the way of my journeys. I'm not discounting your argument about sodomy. But also, there can be subtle things that are happening. That might be in themselves worth something. Refer for example to the example I gave of DJ girl momentarily squeezing my hand. Is that sodomy? Where do you draw the line? It was a sexual moment for me at the very least. I mean I should probably be the one squeezing, but idk it was something and it worked.

>know the nature of Binary Dynamics
EMO DYNAMICS nigger

>I have not outgrown every one of the lesser sins.
I was considering having a child with an Asian chick just for the benefit of future generations. Because these hybrids are so fucking hot. And there is, there are certain things that European women are lacking in, and I see it and I find it in the Asian. But as base model - Europeans are better by my assessment almost all edge cases. So I would be sacrificing myself to make something great. But yeah. Hybrids is where it's at. Look also at Brazil for example. And in general, inbred dogs are fucking.. lack dimensionality. Perhaps more opportunity for failure, but also definitely higher ceiling too. I digress.

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>>16086
>Egypt
And there were like 5 distinct Khemets all the way back to iceage and likely before although it only really picked up after the destruction of Atlantis which is where all of it originates anyway. Even the christian orders of Renaissance, except by that time the knowledge is really degraded. And all of this satanic schools which I closely relate to the juice stuff (and the masons as extension) except the satanic guys are too self-important for their own good. God bless them.
Anyhow, recent years I'm more absorbed in my own insanity. So much so I pretty much don't care about any of it. Well, ETs are cool. But even that has faded in importance. But they got me out of a big pickle. Along with fasting. Not that I'm completely out of it, but it's been years since I felt real desperation. Whereas, when I did feel it, I felt it for decades. continuously.

>>16088
>You gotta be all in when your doing that for real
Okay, then I do clearly see your original point. Ofc you cross the line lol. Let them ride the lightning.

>off alcohol and its like a whole new life.
I'm off since 16 apart for tasting and tinctures. Didn't have even the health for it despite my Eastern European genes. But the last time was really great. Maybe that's why I stopped. Drank with a buddy who was the funniest man I've ever known alive bar none. Truly something incomprehensible, like very weird. My body could barely take it. It got to the point at an earlier time that he would just open his mouth (with no intention of joking, just saying something) and my body would convulse.. He was schizophrenic though. And at some point he decided it was good idea to stab himself in the heart. So that was that.

>How does this make your life easier?
They do not believe that they can pull their tricks on me, because I do not present myself as someone they could pull it on. I mean it's basic respect that I get. Which does make my life easier. Somehow they think that random people don't deserve that, so I have to consciously make sure that they don't confuse me with anyone. Like random women, not even hot, will treat you like shit for no reason, you do realize that.. Because they are so used to walking all over men their entire lives, even the fugly hags, I'm telling you. Sometimes it's enough if they are walking all over their husband to carry out that behavior towards just random men. A lot of women have no respect for men. So if you happen to have any business with them, you have to make sure that they establish respect. Which you do by being borderline rude, but always respectful. In fact you never even become rude, not in the outer expression. You're just on the edge willing to attack if the wrong move is made, but obviously you will never attack, because fuck them who cares about them lol. Not even a rude word. But they will read the energy - don't fuck with me. Of course if they do, I will do nothing, I will just walk away, but that's not the point. The point is that you dissuade them from fucking with you before they have a chance to. And if they are actually sweet and kind persons - oh well, thank your sisters, but for all we know, I was only ever kind - if anything neutral and respectful. And respect alone is a gift.

>lets get to the fucking bottom of this
I do it for fun, sport and accuracy and also to win any argument I would ever need to. Being racist. I don't know if my analysis of it is as evolved as yours, but I guess it's more intuitive with me. Also, I like to blame all deficiencies of others on race (more accurately genetics), I get some kind of strange satisfaction from it. I guess I like how upset the mainstream is with that. That alone sparks something alive in me. The more racist the better. I know that's not ultimately the deciding factor of who the individual is, I love niggers. One of my favorite people David Goggins is a fucking nigger. Also I love nigger men voices. Don't ask. But there are very obvious trends and differences between the races and to deny it is fucking beyond retarded, so let me hold on to my guns. I already ruined my digital footprint (oh yeah I'm also a pedo with inclinations towards rape and genocidal anti-semitism, anti-islamism, all kinds of homo and trans and just general perversions, misogyny you name it), I have to pull an Andrew Tate with it, because there's no chance of explaining myself out of it at this point. Only to double down..

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>>16089
>Did you talk to me on that thread
Don't recall, don't even know what it was about now.
>What doses did you do and how was your experience? Pure Ibogaine HCL???
As I said relatively low doses. Don't recall. Bark. But it's enough for me to get familiar. And I guess my relatively low doses is a normal moderate dose. When I did psychedelics extensively which was when I was 18 19 I did many heroic doses and I think most of the time I heroic doses, so I can extrapolate quite well.
>have some PTA and bark I might microdose one day
I have some cacti in my fridge for over a year that I'm constantly planning to extract and never actually do

>how was your experience?
I just want to finish replying to you for starters, but to be honest I don't really talk about my trips. On top of that it would take some effort to recall any real useful insight for you and it was again a relatively light dose. It wasn't in any way transformational for me, because by the time I ended my early career with psychedelics... I no longer get the information overload unless on higher doses. I'm living with those realizations constantly. So even a moderate trip is just dipping into familiar territory. Except of course ibo has unique character. But you will have deeper insight into that yourself due to more extensive experience and higher doses. All I can say is that I love it and I find it extremely unique and valuable. Yes, it's, it can be a little bit darker. It is great nevertheless and very unique in that it offers something that no classic serotonergic psys do.

>clean off opiates for almost 3 years now
I'd like to try poppy extract. I've read opi. Not in any rush whatsoever. I have one of the greatest psychedelics/entactogens in my refrigerator and haven't gotten around to it in over a year. I would also like to try AMT, a bunch of stuff to be honest, but I never got financially stable enough (pour it all into Hi-Fi gear and recently for whatever reason a car build that I definitely don't have the money for LOL) to do these things and on top of that I'm no longer as preoccupied with the chemical exploration as I am with digesting the stuff that I have already consumed. And boy oh boy do I have stuff to digest, probably for more than one lifetime. But I would like to still do some stuff before I'm too pure for any of it. PCP for example. I rode the moxy wave though f yeah, perhaps one of the best dis ever. NO is interesting, would like to try.. LSA is very based btw besides the bad rap. Better than LSD for sure. And LSD is probably top of the synthetics (haven't tried the close analogs like AL-LAD 1p etc). Well I haven't tried DET, DPT also - those might be of real interest. And out of natural ones, I still haven't tried 5Meo, but definitely not in a rush. If you know about that substance...

Diogenes is based. But none touch Marcus (you may not agree, but I'd argue you haven't read enough or deeply enough)(ofc he just a man and sometimes confused but, trust, this nigger is fr big time, maybe not as centered and zen as lao tzu, but for me even closer to heart.. he just a man, but he saw glimpses I'm telling you) from that whole ancient Greek Roman times. Seneca is cool. Socrates of course as the grandfather. Pythagoras as an even older legend. King Leonidas for a cool story. 20th century is fucking lame compared to these guys. Except for Godel, that nigga sniffing some hard staff idk.

>you know any other good chans?
I think I answered
>420 jannies?
I always got banned for retarded reasons. Retarded mods basically. But then when it started dying and the last like I don't know what it was like two or three years it was just horrendous. Horrible. I was banned one time for saying sand nigger. It was so bad that I thought I was done with the site. But when it actually died, despite how absolute shit it turned not just in terms of moderation but content too in the last like 3 years - once it actually died - I realized that I lost something. Even to this day I miss it DESPITE HOW ABSOLUTE SHIT IT WAS IN THE END. It was still better than anything out there. It was home for me on the internet. But only on sevenchan I learned that moderation doesn't actually HAVE to suck absolute balls if you are on an imageboard. I got banned here plenty of times, but never truly unjustified and never permanently. These are real stand-up guys. Probably among the best regardless of platform. Big shout out.

>great pics
I'm into fashion(if you can call it that) and she's absolute top in terms of street fashion for me, on top of that beautiful and hot. Proper demented as well judging from her tattoos. And whoever photographs her - he or they are amazing photographers like fr, maybe you wouldn't notice out of the few examples, but yeah.

>who are not bugmen type
Well I don't know if you see it, but she has a little bit of insect in her
Fuck it bring on the insects maybe not hot in particular, but I would definitely fw an insect bro
>hellish
Bring it on nigger
>, the fact they exist in the third makes this a given.
Haha, I like your thinking. But it's not what I would go for. For reasons I have already explained, but definitely some kind of hybrid with European type. And asian euro mix can and does have very potent consequences.
>by then its too late.
Might bite me in the ass someday, but COMPLETELY not afraid, probably has to do with my trips... because really any entities - like I don't want to be cocky or anything, but bro...

>form of Miku
Hatsune/Sakura Miku is a based tulpa. Because of how fucking soulless she is. And I bet you haven't seen the art, it is beyond insane the amount of it and some of it is fucking unbelievable, like master artist spending hours upon hours on a single painting. Miku is special not that I have time for her. Lain is even more based. If anyone chooses her, good choice. One pretty sweet intp girl from Czech Republic that I know online is obsessed with her. Zero Two though is the hyper hot, basically impossible-bluepill male fantasy manifest. She is very special. I'm more obsessed with her than any woman irl at this point. Not that I really care. But she is something special.

Think of the coolest bro, beyond even - a legend, a hero, but it's a girl and she's completely submissive to you with not even eyes for other men. The perfect slut.

Here's my own personal note on her inspired by a tiktok (low effort, but I didn't bother):

What makes zero two so attractive?
1. She's - independently of you - so beautiful, fierce and.. perfect in how she approaches life and all situations.
2. She is sweet and loyal af ( all the good feminine things we appreciate)
But really it's the first part - she reminds directly of the mystery.. (so soaked song esp slowed) and of the immediacy and of something actually happening - NOW.
That's how she approaches the world - with that fierceness and with that mystery. Yet, to Hero - she's completely submissive and sweet. AND loyal beyond belief - she doesn't look anywhere elsewhere for any male guidance - Hero is not just enough for her, but she has put absolutely all of her trust - in him. (Despite still being based as absolute fuck while having to fend for herself/on our own)

>HIP YOUNG CYBERPUNKS whos looking to get one up the ole bussy.
Hahahaha

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>>16090
>I just wanted to grill.
Yeaah. About that...

>not serious
Oh, I DO like getting serious..
>and in reality im grilling just fine
Naah, I'm grilling more than anyone tbh, so much so you'd think I'm a complete degenerate.
But at the end of the day all of our Jimmy's are eternal so we're all grilling

>than externals ever did
You yourself are the ultimate permission-slip

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>>16108
I will be in touch fren. Stay blessed posting.

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>>16108
In the mean time, don't catch any rustle from these swine.

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>>16090
>>12444
>>15677
>>16112
That's a used hundred dollar note piece in my zip pocket every day for eleven hundred days or one thousand one hundred years, whichever ends last. Starbreakers, and you make the third musketeer next to Lord Darkseed and Bioshock Effect Warren Ellis. A deal remains a deal gunslinger.
Shouldn't I be immune to autolized extracts by neow? And about 怪獣 energy drink? Think fast marine. And don't be angry if you get....preachy.

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>>16027
>>16107
I will say this tho about Miku
I have scrolled through some like 100k if not approaching 200k anime girls. At least half of these artists at least considered drawing her at least once. Because of how non-existent - she taps into intriguing places approaching, but before the gates of Dawn. She there, she not there. What all this means is she rather undefined. Taps into artist's creativity.
I would not really give a fuck about her under ordinary circumstances if not all of these people putting their literal hearts into they're art (giving life away - yay - I know who has time for that - ME! *exclaims gleefully*). I can't help but love her if not for any other reason, because these people love her and their Love is beautiful. She's the little spawn-and-disappear pixie interdimensional-traveler girl. So light, you're not even sure she there. I guess that's why you are always so pleasantly surprised when she IS here. MIKU!!!!! Miku miku miku, miku miku miku... There's nothing in that head. I do not mind her. God bless. All she knows is how to travel and between dimensions (oopsiedoodle, I'm in human dimension, puff..,t)

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>>16117
Her hair alone is worth writing a book about

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Last Miku pic

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(I think) for now

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Um, sir.. aa, brother, I know I posted pretty nonchalantly and that was genuine, but, uh, don't leave me hanging, I'm going fucking insane overhere, you're not in special forces or some shit, give this musty ole imageboard dweller some more reasons to stay humane.

B8 but yeah, don't write a fucking book again but I wanna no what u up to.
Today was real interesting (adventures of a retarded peasant), but out of respect for you and other users I won't turn this into a blog. I just need to clear my head sometimes. I liked the sexual discussion and vibing a little bit. You do realize I haven't a single fren? I abandon everyone!

Anyway just because our view on drugs and sex align somewhat doesn't mean there's real relevance. But I do wonder a little bit (forgive my hyper focus)

(Idrgaf u do u tbh, I'm tired, ur not gonna give me straight sleep, r you... God I hate talking to new people)

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Throw me a bone, sire

Btw idk I think we agree on most points interms of the sexual stuff, idk how I could really enrich you much further beyond what I already shared, so if you're gonna make a pdf, I'd appreciate it too. The discussion has (d)evolved, but truth is I don't have anything serious to discuss anyway. I've had some online friends in the past and it CAN be cool, some of them actually legit extraordinary ppl, but written form of communication with any seriousness is beyond boring at the end of the day. The only reason I entertained this instance is because well as it turns out - against all odds we indeed have come to some similar conclusions.. someone told me it'd come to that.?...

But if we don't talk about meta meta meta (which is pointless in most any case, but especially using written language...) what is there really to talkabout. Greatest people I have nothing to say to. Not even because they're boring necessarily. But because there are inherent bottlenecks to this. Plus I do appreciate clarity. There's only so much we can bring to each other's lives through words.

It was a pleasure speaking, but I'm just letting you know where I ultimately stand in regards to this type of stuff.

They say good things come to those who wait. I say there is such serene clarity in knowing exactly what you want. Herald the new meaning of life, behold with your own true eyes - the immediacy of all consuming fire of an eversplosion. Heil! Heil! Heil!

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Momentary mini blog moment: finally (semi)finished my like 5 month BJT transistor Class A single ended amplifier/research project today. Absolute MAD fun. Think like purify class D modules type bass, but the awesomeness extends way into the mids, no more class D emotionlessness. I'd say more or less unparalleled mids in terms of aliveness and real world realism. Extremely simple design, as such real connection, no veil in mids. Nothing like that is commercially available and I've heard quite a few pieces in 10-30k category and even DIYfers are totally sleeping on this kind of approach despite being extremely simple... On top of all that - REAL aliveness and connection at absolute lowest of volumes too. Class D, relative to this, regardless of price I'd say is simply uninteresting unless cranked up. Might sound too good to be true and it kinda is - highs while better than most things under 500-1k are nothing to write home about. Definitely don't compare with expensive Class A, Class AB or tubes. However I'm building another one based on friend's designs and it's going to be stellar, but cash is short. Gambled it all in alts, so kinda stuck with them for now. If you didn't know all alts pretty much lost 2x-100x value relative to BTC since around new year. Doesn't bother me whatsoever, but does affect finances lol.

Also burned 400-1k worth of DAC yesterday, so that was a heartbreaker, but I'm not dissuaded from music enjoyment just yet (had another DAC...).

Life is good

>>16121
If you have not figured it out by now. I am ghosting you. Goodbye.

>>16128
And you are now officially the first and likely only ever person who has to have or will have to have their God of the Interwebz award revoked. Thank you for this experience, it was an education for me, and a priceless one. You are the worst kind of person and I want absolutely nothing to do with you.

🥱

Thanks for letting me know you ghost me, that is a rare privilege in deed.

Likewise, I have enjoyed this immensely. And my gratitude is 100% sincere.

Godspeed

>>16130
https://rumble.com/user/BrotherGoose2

>>16231
Soon to be featuring this entire thread. Time to take the redpills you were unwilling to anon.

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>>16262
>There is so much to say, that saying nothing covers it.
Where do I even start, ok I'll guess we start at the..
>So it begins and some would even go as far as to say "happening"
Ini the beninging ini de bin nin ging di bini na ini Da bi nin GING de been gen na Init al
>¹ 1 2 3 5
Anyway, y'all stay careful out there , remember the wisdom of the ancient masters who were profound and subtle "don't do any weird stuff like that"


>The system's inherent dynamic equilibrium becomes susceptible to perturbation, leading to a bifurcation cascade wherein the trajectory diverges from its intended attractor, exhibiting chaotic or limit-cycle behavior characterized by non-linear oscillations or a breakdown of ergodicity within the phase space. This instability arises from the complex interplay of state variables and their interconnected feedback loops, potentially amplified by minute fluctuations that trigger a non-linear resonance, ultimately causing the system to transition to a qualitatively different regime exceedingly farr from its initial stable manifold.
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>>16265
put me in the screen shot

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Maternal instinct doesn't exist. If there's anything real in this world whatsoever - it's the curiosity and passionate BLAZE of the heart and even that is an illusion, but if there's anything real at all whatsoever...

Sheltering, mothering, nurturing what? And towards what end?
You may think "oh, I just want a peaceful life, just want some stability and health and manageable situation type shit for a change." But life will burst your bubble again and again and again and again.. it's all an illusion, but ESPECIALLY that.

There is only life and there is death. Peace is already here and it is supreme and it is impeccable. It is achieved, it is solved, it is present and beyond any measure. The only thing that's left is the spark of life. The wilderness of creativity, the curiosity, the mystery, the camaraderie. Maternity? Never is, never was. Unless you count the void as your mother. Indeed she puts up a sweet embrace. She will support and suspend you through thick and thin. Her embrace is cold.
But for now, fellow comrade, set your gaze upon the stars, you are at peace already, and if there's anything worth any action at all - it's the lighthearted and the magical.