then black people would get outraged at having their unique struggles marginalized when someone responds, "All lives don't matter."

No lives matter.

Have you considered the significance of any individual life in the cosmos?

No lives matter.

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>>214
Oh my god. You people just can't let the black man have anything, can you? The black man can't be worthless. No, EVERYONE has to be worthless! Well guess what, shitlord. Black people have to worry about being worthless more than whites. You get to sit in you nice suburb where you can do something meaningful, while the black man is forced to live in a poor neighborhood where he can do something meaningful but instead just drinks and hollers at white women. You will never understand what it is like to face the barrel of a cops gun because you will be an upstanding member of society who will have complied with authorities well before the need to uses such force. Why don't you take a second to check your privilege and then tell me who's lives don't matter.

>>229
wtf are you even talking about?

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>>229

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>>231
I'm pretty sure he was trying to be sarcastic... and failed miserably at it.

Probably his low IQ caused by racism.

>>231
>>233
See, you can't even understand the struggle. You white cis straight male assholes.

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>>234
One man understands struggle. A gay man hiding in the clothes of an autocrat.

>implying we even bought the whole ideal that they matter.

>>271
>implying anyone's life matters

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>>229
>let
Nobody gives you anything. You have to make it yourself
>You will never understand what it is like to face the barrel of a cops gun because you will be an upstanding member of society who will have complied with authorities well before the need to uses such force.
So, I should make them shoot me then complain that it was about my race?

>>285
>should make them shoot me then complain
You can't complain, you're dead.

>>234
it's a joke, hun

Speaking of lives and their not mattering, there's been a bit of a ruckus in the same metropolitan area that's responsible for Chris-chan.

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>>415
Not surprising, Chris-chan is a human black hole of suck. Nothing can resist the pull towards his shit, not SJWs, not police helicopters, not even white supremacy itself.

They were doomed the moment they set foot in his state.

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>>415
On the plus side, it has led to some good art.

>>229
Blacks are just worthless period. Look at their behavior patterns over the last 150 years. They act like sodomite apelings. Like they're still in the jungles of africa. They need to go back there.

Alternatively, I think that if Black lives mattered to blacks, they'd be out killing gang-bangers and drug runners instead of complaining about cops doing their jobs.

>>533
Agreed!

Blacks also bitch and complain about racism when they truly are the most racist beings on the planet.

>>533
>complaining about cops doing their jobs.

Black youth gets shot to death in front of 20 people.
Everyone knows the victim and the shooter.
Noone says a thing.

"Cops need to do their jobs! They don't care about black people!"

>>535
>Everyone knows the victim and the shooter. Noone says a thing.
To be completely fair, that's just southern culture.

>>536
Nobody wants to be a snitch because snitches get stitches.

>>540
Gotta justify spending 50% of your income on firearms somehow.

>>542
That is true. The only good nigger is a dead one.

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>>543
Funny how conservatives started to support gun legislation once the black panthers started hoarding guns.

Fucking pussies.

>>558
Conservatives have never supported gun legislation.

>>563
The world existed before you were born, teenage girl.

Conservatives used to mock the radical faction that took over the NRA, for pushing the alternative view of the 2nd amendment that current pseudo-conservatives accept as fact.

>>564
What a party "used to do" is largely irrelevant to two parties that have no problem pandering and/or adapting to changing opinions.

>>566
>no problem pandering and/or adapting to changing opinions
That's right, they'll say anything; be anything to stay in power.

Stop electing these shits who never keep their promises. If we want our government to respond to us, we have to demonstrate that it is responsible to us. Just once, we have to elect a president from another party. Any other party, to show the ruling parties they will be held accountable for their failure.

>>567
Yeah, that's easy enough to say. However, you've met those individuals that refuse to vote for a third party because it feels like a wasted vote when no one votes for third parties, though it wouldn't be a waste if enough people had the balls to vote for them. Give the world your best counterargument against that.

>>569
>Give the world your best counterargument against that.
Those people are stupid.

That is honestly the most profound argument I can make against it, and it depresses me to know it has no weight and will never convince them to stop voting against their own prosperity. I don't think argument is an effective method to encourage these people to act in their own interest; it's like telling a heroin addict that drugs are bad.

I'd rather there were an alternative to violence, eugenics, etc. to change the ratio of people who are willing to do something for themselves agaisnt people who think "woking the system from the inside" has ever worked, but talk isn't it.

What does one do when the vast majority lack the initiative to act in their own best interest? All I can do is keep spamming the truth here and every other part of the internet I visit: the two major parties only care about staying on top together; most any political gripe anyone alive has ever had was against the members or actions of one of those two parties if not both--the only way to be sure US democracy* works at all, at this point, is to elect a president from another party.

*I am painfully aware that the US is not a 'democracy', but a 'republic' that purports itself to be "democratic". This is yet another truth that is very difficult to communicate to other people in the United States because most of them lake the intellect to distinguish the two and/or slept through Civics and History in school.

>>571
>lake
*lack
Goddamn autocorrect.

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>>571
>agaisnt people who think "woking the system from the inside" has ever worked
Uh, but it clearly has, time and time again.

For a blindingly massive example just look at the Republican party.

The Republican party championed abolition to the point of civil war. It championed civil rights to the point of sending troops into schools and businesses.

The people they vehemently opposed just 10 to 20 years earlier were taken in with open arms. The focus of the entire party changed in less than a decade because it was taken over from within.

Similarly the Democratic party underwent a similar change a few years earlier. All those people who became Republicans? Who had spent their lives opposed everything the Republican Party stood for? They used to be Democrats. They were expunged en-masse by people working within that party.

If you're going to make this argument, you had better actually have some history on your side rather than bullshit that you tell yourself to not actually do anything useful with your time.

Find some candidate you believe in and join their campaign team. Come on you antisocial pricks, fucking go out there and find someone. Then you could actually have some real world experience to displace the bullshit you have now. A candidate doesn't limit you to D or R, it can be anyone.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there are political operatives spamming nonsense through social media and other online forums intending to keep people like you locked up and useless. Stop parroting their talking points and start physically doing something. Stop swiping right and left. Put down your cell phone. Leave your basements.

>>578
>it clearly has
>The focus of the entire party changed in less than a decade because it was taken over from within
>They were expunged en-masse by people working within that party
Perhaps I should ammend my statment: it's never worked for any beneficial purpose. It only seems to work for people who want to shit things up. Although, no I haven't really looked it up; I only have my real-world experience to rely on--trying to work a bad system for a good purpose usually fails.

>Stop parroting their talking points and start physically doing something.
I'm happy you posted this, because it's true, and they've probably been here too. I am not one of them. It may not sound very original, but I don't think you'll find many people who share my point of view. I'm rather used to being the only person who ever says or thinks the things I say and think--been that way my whole life.

As for physically doing something, this is physically doing something. Just like those spambots attempt to sway public opinion with their spam, I'm trying to get a message out to an audience that might be receptive to it. Also, I vote.

As for making my ideal manifest; I often find myself thinking about the kinds of minor party coalitions you see in Europe--especially in Germany. There's no single third party in the United States with the financial resources or membership to compete against the two major parties. The most likely path to a real victory would be to have a "coalition primary" and pit the various third party candidates against each other as early as the major parties are having their primaries. The victor would become the coalition's candidate, with some agreement as to how that candidate will be able to represent the multifaceted values of the coalition in office (ie, as president they lead the nation according to the policies of their own party, but agree to give other--qualified--coalition candidates voices and roles in their administration).

The system itself is quite broken however, and stacked against the chances of any non-Republican or Democratic candidate from ever winning. Without proportional representation in most state's electoral colleges, the popular vote is nigh on meaningless. I could imagine a third-party candidate becoming popular enough to win a majority of the popular vote nationwide, and in a majority of states, but if they don't get the majority in a few specific states they still lose.

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>>579
The old "my point was exposed as bullshit so I'm going to change my point" play. (yawn)

>>580
I was trying to offer a concession to your counterpoint. If you'd rather I stick hard and fast to mine, I can do that too: Trying to work the system from the inside doesn't work. Expoiting a bad system to make something worse does, but trying to change a bad system into a good one without resorting to abolishing the original system never has.

>>579
>As for physically doing something, this is physically doing something.
No it is not.

>>584
How much coordinated shitposting is necessary before it reaches the level of "doing something?" If scandals about Russians and Cambridge Analytica are to be believed, there is a level where people can be influenced by what's posted online, but one person armed with nothing more than an opinion on a chan is a slacktivist. Where's the crossover point?

>>600
>Where's the crossover point?
Legitimate question is legitimate.

>one person armed with nothing more than an opinion on a chan
Let's call it the strategy of least effort. This is the absolute minimum of energy and capital one can expend on this type of propaganda campain. I'm sure there's a correlation between investment and success, but that's not to say with certainty that greater investment always leads to greater success. However unlikely, if other shitposters come to share my opinion, and propagate it through futher shitposts, the snowball effect could be as effective as any professional campaign.

Onward, for science!

>>600
>How much coordinated shitposting is necessary before it reaches the level of "doing something?"
It's an infinitely recursive value, you never can actually do anything without dragging your tubby butt out of a chair and going off and meeting like-minded people who will work with you on the goal you all share by repeatedly dragging their tubby butts out of chairs and actually doing things in that scary place you know as the real world.

Its kind of like what happens in Russia except there it ends up in executions or arrests if you oppose the regime or their flunkies.

>>229
Blacks are fucking horrible terrible people. They ruin communities with their presence. They deserve to be oppressed. Racism is a moral imperative.

>>696
Trailer trash are fucking horrible terrible people. They ruin communities with their presence. They deserve to be oppressed.

>>751
That bit of satire doesn't hit as hard when eugenics proponents literally believe that about white trash as much as they do about black people.

>>776
This is where most eugenics proponents are wrong. Improving humanity's gene pool isn't going to do away with poverty. Despite any improvment to our baseline physical or mental abilities, there will always be class and class conflict. We will divide ourselves, as we always have, along geographic and familial lines, into haves and have-nots.

>>776
>literally
Actually, no, most eugenics proponents don't believe that. They believe particular races are trash. If a Nazi came across a down on his luck Aryan in a trailer park they would still consider him a brother.

The problem is that races are complete and utter bullshit, quite literally created by eugenicists out of the world of ignorance that existed in the 1600s.

That's why eugenics fails. The world has moved on. Its time for eugenics to join the dustbin of history, like phrenology, chinese "medicine," physic surgery, antivaxxers - all the forms of quackery. Just let ignorance die the death it so richly deserves.

>>859
I agree with everything you posted except about chinese medicine. True, a lot of herbal medicine is unregulated quackery, but the real, traditional chinese medicine does have some base in trial and error. Some of those remedies work, and plants are the basis for many modern medicines.

That said, I wouldn't recommend taking any chinese medicine or therapy from anyone who is not Chinese and in China.

>>860
>trial and error
That sounds nice until you realize that most of the animal parts they grind up now weren't known in China until fairly recently (by China's terms) so there's no trial and error involved with them.

This is because most of the animals they ground up throughout history (by China's terms) were hunted to extinction.

At those points they faced two choices: Start over from scratch with a new animal who may or may not offer the same benefits as the old animal or come up with a line of bullshit that the new animal parts offer the same benefits as the old animal parts with absolutely nothing to back it up.

Guess which choice they opted for?

>>863
Some basis; not The Scientific Method.
You can criticize them for powderizing the bones of endagered species if you like, but that doesn't invalidate over 2,000 years, of developments in herbal medicine, acupuncture, chiropractice, massage, moxibustion, exercise, and dietary therapy.

>>864
>Some
So witchdoctory. Gotcha.

>>865
To a degree, yes. That doesn't mean that much of it doesn't work.
It's not Voodoo; Chinese doctors don't pray to pagan gods (in china they don't pray to gods, period, because communism). The way you look down on it really is out of place; Chinese medicine isn't complete nonsense that can be dismissed the way you keep trying.

Many of those treatments are effective to treat illness that is treatable. The quackery side of it is when it's used to treat the untreatable. Yeah, there are people who would swear by Chinese remedies that cure cancer, etc. and that's just stupid, but it doesn't invalidate treatments that can help you get over a cold, a flu, jaundice, etc.

>>866
The bits of most traditional pre-scientific medicine systems that actually happen to work are just called medicine.

>>867
And the bits that don't are called quackery.

Apparently some people have trouble with quackery being called quackery because zomg ancient mysticism and the west is always wrong about everything.

>>868
>zomg ancient mysticism and the west is always wrong about everything
Are you talking about me? For defending a system of medical treatment that by and large works and has been for thousands of years? If you were paying any fucking attention, you may have noticed that I am not the opposition you are looking for:
>>860
>True, a lot of herbal medicine is unregulated quackery
>>864
>Some basis; not The Scientific Method.
>>866
>To a degree, yes.

My point is that much of it does actually work, not all of it, and yes there is some quackery. Mysticism isn't medicine, medicine is medicine. Chinese medicine is mostly medicine, but sure, go right ahead and keep charging at this windmill; I don't mind.

>>870
>Chinese medicine is mostly medicine
And that's where we differ. Chinese medicine is mostly quackery.

Some of it is helpful, some of it is hurtful, but most of it is neither helpful nor hurtful. People take placebos and cure diseases at the same rate as the last group, making it as helpful as imbibing a sugar pill. Except nobody hunted animals to extinction to make a sugar pills.

Next time please leave your white guilt at the door.

>>871
>Some of it is helpful
I'm content to leave it at this.

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To bring this back on topic-ish:

It's impossible to be racist to white people. Maybe one day other races will be important and powerful enough to be racist to white people, but that isn't the case now.

>>878
How does that make any sense?

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>>878
I'll just leave this here.

>>879
The easiest way to discredit the idea that it's impossible to be racist against white people is to have white supremacists take it up. "Maybe if you had an important, powerful race, you could be racist to me, but you say you can't because you literally don't matter." That idea would rapidly get shut down real quicklike.

>>883
Just don't ever talk about it again. Not to support it, not to criticize it. Let this stupidity die a quiet death.

Obviously both "black lives matter" and "all lives matter" are true but when the context is a discussion about blacks getting killed for dumb reasons, it's "black lives matter" that's relevant.
However if someone says "black lives matter" but gets angry from hearing "it's ok to be white" they're racist and their anti-racist statements were dishonest. (obviously that's also true in the opposite direction)

>>1524
We managed not to bring this stupidity up for nearly a year >>885; was it really necessary to reiterate this shit?

No lives matter.

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>>1525
Not true.

Your life, however, doesn't matter.

>>1526
A thousand years from now, if there's any sentient life on earth, they may dig up the ruins of our society. They will classify every skeleton they find as male or female, they will ponder over what the people whose remains they find once did; they will get most of it wrong; and nothing any of us have done or will do individually will impact their world. Ten thousand years later, another society might dig up them and do the same.

No lives matter.

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>>1563
No Russian lives matter.

>>1564
No Russian lives, no American lives, no African lives, no Asian lives, no Aboriginal lives, no Australian lives, no European lives, no animal lives, no plant lives, no fungal lives, no single-celled lives, no lives matter.

>>1565
I always find this to be such a trivial and lazy analysis.
Like, yes, objectivly, in the grand scheme of things, no lives matter.

But from the perspective of human existence and with in that framework peoples lives should matter to one another because we are all just trying to live our lives in the greater nihilism that encompasses us in our daily lives.

>>1566
>yes, objectivly, in the grand scheme of things, no lives matter.
I'm glad that we agree.

Now that you understand, we can move on to living as the free and equal blips of random chance in the great vastness of time and space that we are. We do not have to be conceited to care about each other. Decency, kindness, and respect are not mandatory; each of us must earn them from others--which is most easily achieved by sharing them freely.

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>>1567
>Cherry picking anything ever.

>>1568
I have no idea what you are trying to express with that image macro I assume you picked up at noggertots and I feel very good about that.

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>>1569
He's trying to imply he is smarter than you.

By using a fucking wojak.

>>1571
I'm trying to say he thinks he's smart, lol

>>1570
It is always relevant here, newfag.

>>1572
As >>1571 has pointed out, all you did was fail.

Maybe all you ever do is fail.

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>>1573
Mfw.

>>1574
I'm not seeing anywhere in that post where it says "we now accept failchanner faggotry and require our users do to the same". The mods may have given up enforcing 7chan culture, but that doesn't mean 7chan no longer has a culture. Our administration has always been lax; it's 7chan's userbase that makes it great.

tl;dr: You're never going to fit in.

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>>1576
You're stuck in the past anon.
I pity you.

>>1577
And you are a newfag.
I don't pity you.

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>>1578
>newfag
I pity your lack of imagination, you lingering chunk of effluent.

>>1565
Why is it that the guy who says no lives matter is always the first to beg for their life?

Its almost like they think no lives matter... except theirs.

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>>1580

>>211
Well...they don't.

>>1641
This discussion was concluded:
>>212 >>214 >>271 >>278 >>1525 >>1563 >>1565 >>1566 >>1567
No lives matter.

Now grow up and get over your petty, weak little hate. You really want to blame just one race for how shit the world is? Blame the human race.

>>1643
capitalism is the real issue. It has nothing to do with human-beings:

“Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living. And just as they seem to be occupied with revolutionizing themselves and things, creating something that did not exist before, precisely in such epochs of revolutionary crisis they anxiously conjure up the spirits of the past to their service, borrowing from them names, battle slogans, and costumes in order to present this new scene in world history in time-honored disguise and borrowed language.”

>>1646
>capitalism
Yet another thing humans invented to make themselves miserable.

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>>1647
That's a shitty and a-historical take you got their my friend.


Capitalism was established after the abolition of feudalism. It became ingrained in society through he use of violence. E.G The enclosures and various laws passed to basically outlaw homelessness, force people off their land; create the means by which a group of people which had no property and thus became reliant on the system of capitalism; and through various other forms of primitive accumulation.

After the overthrow of the aristocracy many people where advocating alternative modes of production reminiscent to early ideas of socialism; utopian socialism or mutualism; ideas that centred around democracy and decentralization.

Capital had to be forced onto the human race. You have it backwards.

>>1648
You say this as if the wealthy and powerful who forced it on the poor and helpless were not members of the same human race; they were.

You're also leaving out The American Dream™ (and whatever they called it during the Industrial Revolution); where the top capitalists sold those same poor and helpless people the idea that there is a ladder, made of hard work and lofty ambition, that they can climb out of their hopelessness and into the upper echelons of society.

Not to mention that no one at the top is really happy. Look at Duck--top of the free world--he look happy to you? Jeff Bezos is the richest man on the planet; his marriage failed because he was desperately looking for hookups with strangers on the internet--is that the kind of thing a happy person does? Infinite greed means never being satisfied.

Capitalism makes people miserable at every level, and it was invented by humans to disenfranchise other humans. Really, it isn't all that different from the feudal system--we just swapped a noble aristocracy for a merchant aristocracy.

>>1646
>>1647
>>1648
>>1649
Really?

>>1651
Yes.

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>>1651
Don't mind him, he likes having conversations with himself.

>>1654
Oh. I thought it was a really really stupid communist and a stupid communist arguing with one another.

Weird.

>>1655
>Communism is anything I don't like

>>1656
What would you call it?

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>>1686
Socialism, duh.

>>1687
National Socialism?

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>>1688
If you believe Russians, sure.

But they Godwin themselves before breakfast.

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Black lives got Obama elected Twice and the lack of them showing up got Trump elected after that. At least in politics, black lives clearly matter.

they don't

>>1773

Oooh your understated racism is adorable.
They do

>>1783

Oooh your overstated wokeism is adorable.
They don't, no one's does.

No lives matter.

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>>1787
If no one's life matters, then why are you still alive?

Kill yourself and prove to us all just how much nobody's life matters.

Otherwise you're just a little bitch unwilling to commit to his belief system.

>>1790
Second post with this bullshit. Suicide only proves you're so vain you think things will be different if you aren't around. Neither your life nor death amount to much in the long run.

You'd be a lot happier as a person if you could accept your insignificance and live with it.