/zom/ - Zombies

Shambler 13/03/31(Sun)21:30 No. 4491 ID: 1c9f3d

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/zom/, I'm a military vet, and I know a thing or two about first aid in the field, but what was never clear to me is how to control severe arterial bleeding in the neck. In almost all cases of severe bleeding you would just apply a shitload of pressure to the wound and pinch off the artery at a higher point, but replicating this in the neck will shut the brain's blood supply down and will kill your patient. The best thing I can think to do is to clean the wound as best you can and suture it on the spot, but with uncontrolled bleeding this presents additional complications, not the least of which would be the swelling causing the sutures to pull free, potentially making the wound worse.

Anyone have any knowledge or experience with this?

Shambler 13/04/01(Mon)19:04 No. 4495 ID: 691862

Med student, emergency unit intern here.

There's absolutely no way you can pull this off out of a controlled environment such as an emergency room. You might be able to stall the bleeding in the battle's heat, but then the unlucky fellow will live as a plant. Or turn.

Shambler 13/04/01(Mon)19:11 No. 4497 ID: 1c9f3d

>>4495
That's what I was afraid of. I've been considering adding some quikclot wadding to the field surgery kit I'd like to build, but I don't really know of anything that can be done outside of just hoping to be in the right place at the wrong time.

Shambler 13/04/03(Wed)18:02 No. 4499 ID: c8a832

>>4497
Unfortunately, your patient would evolve into irreversible brain damage before you could stall it out anyway.
I've seen arteries bleeding out from fingertips and braincap skin, and hell, these tiny vessels are already hard enough to seal.

Shambler 13/04/03(Wed)20:07 No. 4500 ID: 1c9f3d

>>4499
I once nicked myself at the most extraneous digit with an x-acto knife... must have hit the artery, because I got a solid two foot arc from what would eventually be sealed by I believe two tiny little stitches. I tried to stop the bleeding on my own, but after two hours it just kept on going and I had to go to the clinic on Christmas eve, hahaha.

So, I get what you're saying about sometimes 'minor' cuts being very hard to control... it just strikes me as odd that we still can't really do anything about the wound that I described. The 21st century is hella lame.

Shambler 13/04/03(Wed)20:07 No. 4501 ID: 1c9f3d

>>4500
*at the most extraneous knuckle

Shambler 13/04/11(Thu)00:35 No. 4517 ID: 45c940

>>4500
That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about... Now imagine that in a broad vessel like the carotid.

Shambler 13/04/11(Thu)05:16 No. 4518 ID: 9e2949

This is a little off topic here, but seems close enough.

I've wanted to learn how to do a field blood transfusion, just in case. I'm pretty sure I have type O something blood. I've donated a few times, and the nurses are always impressed with my blood, to the point of cutting me in front of a half hour long line in a high school blood drive once. Apparently I have really high iron, as well. One of the times I donated they brought in gear for, if I remember correctly, a double apheresis [sp?] procedure. As far as I know, I was one of only two who did that, the other being a P.E. teacher. I was supposed to be told at a later time what my blood type was exactly, but never got anything.

Anyway, it just seems like something that would be really useful to know.

Shambler 13/04/11(Thu)07:29 No. 4519 ID: 1c9f3d

>>4518
OP here. Interested in this as well. I have O Neg, high iron, and I was once told I have some weird protein which lets me donate to infants(?) I was never aware that infants couldn't receive adult whole-blood. Regardless, I'm curious as well.

Shambler 13/04/27(Sat)16:27 No. 4559 ID: 37e5af

Med student here. You apply pressure with an Israeli bandage. Then go home. The end

Shambler 13/04/27(Sat)17:59 No. 4560 ID: f038d1

>>4559
Uh....no?

Shambler 13/04/28(Sun)11:23 No. 4561 ID: 6e003f

>>4559
"We saved the patient! Unfortunately he's now brain dead. Fortunately this means we can charge the next of kin insane medical fees to keep the patient alive! It's win-win-win!"

Shambler 13/05/14(Tue)00:08 No. 4581 ID: 0d5466

>>4559
No.
>>4491

On topic though, he would most likely be fucked in the field, either you stop the blood from entering the brain, or he would bleed out. Blocking and then open for some fresh wound to the brain works in theory (like you do when you have a tournique on so the tissue below it wont die), but not really practical, as you would probably not manage to block it properly again.

You would need surgery by a surgeon and in a controlled environment.

Nurse student and ex-armymedic here.

Shambler 13/05/28(Tue)03:50 No. 4605 ID: ca12bb

so I heard that zombies sometimes get people to eat ice cream in order to preserve them in cryostasis - they call it brainfreeze

ice cream is just a tool used by our zombie overlords to control us without us realizing it

rise up fellow warmbloods, rise up and let us throw off the shackles of ice cream oppression

FPOB!!R1ZmxlMzD4 13/05/30(Thu)17:03 No. 4609 ID: f322df

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>>4605
Well I, for one, welcome our new zombie overlords.

Shambler 13/10/04(Fri)06:09 No. 4822 ID: 5d5bc0

>>4609

Brockman, you traitor!!!

Shambler 13/10/09(Wed)00:33 No. 4831 ID: 4f15e1

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>>4495
You're making stuff up, bro.

Shambler 13/10/09(Wed)00:34 No. 4832 ID: 4f15e1

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>>4605

Shambler 13/10/09(Wed)01:19 No. 4835 ID: 591639

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I feel like perhaps too much attention has been given to the GIF I posted, and perhaps not enough on the question itself...

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