How do you figure he had deadbeat parents? Did you know him?

The attacker had mental issues, not an ideology.

Unless of course you have info the rest of the world doesn't.

I'm split on the validity of the term "incel ideology". On the one hand, we all know some truly fucked up pieces of shit who it seems to fit like a glove (and that's just IRL) and you can clearly see the difference between them and the average man. But at the same time, I think every man has an "incel" foundation (by which I mean hyper cynicism about the dating market and the status of men and a sense of anger and insecurity about those things) and a "non-incel" is just someone who ignores it and works past it. By this approach, you would simply call this sort of thinking "common sense" and say that these murderers had mental illness that prevented them from coping with reality, rather than saying they were fundamentally wrong in their judgement of that reality.

I've fucked more girls than all of my three close friends put together and yet deep down I feel like more of an incel than any of them at times. (Note, by the way, that 2 would be enough meet this standard lol)

>>24886
But dehumanizing the victim makes things simpler
It's like breathing with a respirator
It eases the conscience of even the most conscious
and calculating violator
Words can reduce a person to an object,
something more easy to hate
An inanimate entity, completely disposable,
no problem to obliterate

How many times in your short life have you called soneone an "incel"?

>>24887

>How do you figure he had deadbeat parents? Did you know him?

If you have to ask, you obviously aren't paying attention.

>The attacker had mental issues, not an ideology.

Wrong. The guy was stalking one of the women he stabbed. He also went after another, unrelated woman prior to this.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/joshua-graves-ottawa-stabbing-shooting-siu-anoka-1.6506396

>The man who stabbed a mother and her two daughters Monday night is the son of the family's next-door neighbour, had a "romantic" interest in one of the victims, and was just days ago charged with stalking and sexual assault against another woman

>Graves' relatives told CBC he had previously shown "romantic" interest in one of the daughters, and had been told to stop contacting her.

And of course, the deadbeat parents make excuse after excuse, topping it off with "forgiveness"

I looked at a picture of the victims. They were pretty decent looking. It's all I needed to know. Like I said in the other thread, ugly people are petty vindictive fucks who will hurt and kill people if they don't get their way. That millennials peddled the incel shit because they thought it was somebody else's fault they couldn't get some ass led to this young man taking innocent lives. But keep on hiding behind "mental illness," though. One day, "normies" will just say fuck it and make Aktion-T4 look like a tea party.

>>24891

>How many times in your short life have you called soneone an "incel"?

Facts don't care about your feelings. Trying to lean into a "gotcha" instead of offering productive discussion....typical.

>>24890

Incels do not exist. Femcels do not exist. Just a bunch of whiny millennals who will inevitably suicide at fifty, and good riddance.

>>24893
Obviously my post was not talking about literal "involuntary celibates" but the practical connotations. I even gave my own definition.

Also you realize most people under that label are Gen Z, right?

>>24894

>Also you realize most people under that label are Gen Z, right?

No, those would be millennials. Most "zoomers" claiming to be incel are millennials posing. They do this shit all the time, like when it comes to pretending to be "red pilled" women. Zoomers aren't as bad as you'd like to think. I know it hurts seeing your generation left in the dust by literal kids, but come on.

>>24896
I'm 23 lmao

>>24894
>Also you realize most people under that label are Gen Z, right?

It's Gen X,Y, and Z.
It's not all Zoomers. There's alot of them that are over 25.
Alot of our edgelord politics is post-boomer.

>>24897

Sure you are. Twenty three and you found a dead spinoff of an imageboard popularized by cringy millennials of the noughties? Get real, millennial.

>>24901
No, he's legit.
I know it's hard to believe, but alot of Gen Z have fallen under the generational self-hatred due to the negative stereotyping.
It's like back in 2010-13 when alot of millennials were struck with "le wrong generation" sentiment.

>>24904

>alot of Gen Z have fallen under the generational self-hatred due to the negative stereotyping.

I don't disagree with that. What I disagree with is that they express it on sites like 7chan. Zoomers are more likely to do so on my mother's fax machine and subreddits like r/teenagers, not fucking cuckchan spinoffs.

>>24901
We all have internet access, pal.

>>24905
>>24901
I don't get why you have this view of 4chan. It's clearly not 'le secret club', it's a giant website that has made national news many times and still adds new boards to deal with excessive traffic. Pretty much every 18 year old male at least knows what 4chan is, and many of them go there. Some don't like it and leave but I think you should be able to understand the obvious factors of it that appeal to young men as well as millennials and Gen Xers, namely that it is anonymous and someone can't just casually screenshot a poorly worded post and ruin your future prospects.

As for other chans, it's really not complicated. You get tired of 4chan's bullshit, you hear there is an alternative that maintains the same overall style, you give it a try. There is no magical force preventing me from going to websites that are mainly populated by over 30's, I can even go to crystal cafe despite being male. I just like it here since it's quieter and there seems to be more interest in abstract postulating.

This whole thinking is completely counter-intuitive to (what I assume are) your other posts that complain about young people being unfairly treated as incompetent and un-adult. Kids naturally want to pursue adult activities, and are more than capable of typing in '7chan.org'

>>24907

>I don't get why you have this view of 4chan.

Look at the track record.

>ruin your future prospects.

Not like a lot of people even have those to begin with.

Also, did anyone here hear about the sicko in Oregon who lured a Canadian girl and took her across the border? I looked up his birthdate. 1981. Typical millennial.

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>>24910

See? 1981. I saw on 4chan's /lit/ that they were complaining about a pedo. Could this millennialoid be the one?

>>24907
>Kids naturally want to pursue adult activities, and are more than capable of typing in '7chan.org'

That's what I've been saying. But the modern "loss prevention" culture overplays any potential flaw/inexperience to the point of self-fulfilled prophecy.
It's like we want to remain babies for as long as possible.

>>24913

>This whole thinking is completely counter-intuitive to (what I assume are) your other posts that complain about young people being unfairly treated as incompetent and un-adult.

Because the vast majority of the time, it's millennials posing as younger. Come the fuck on, dude. Read between the lines. It's so obvious, too. And fine, maybe young folks would hear about 4chan, but 7chan? Come on. Nobody cares about a dead spinoff of a past its prime site that helped to ruin the internet with culture war bullshit.

>>24913

>It's like we want to remain babies for as long as possible.

That's why imageboards still exist. It's because faggots can't handle aging. Look at all the excuses people put up. "namely that it is anonymous and someone can't just casually screenshot a poorly worded post and ruin your future prospects," as if the elitist dorks who still use imageboards had any to begin with. You know it as much as I do that the only reason, the ONLY reason, anyone still uses imageboards is because they're afraid of the normies they're jealous of. And if they can't handle that, then either get used to it or just kill yourselves instead of innocent people at fucking parades. So many so called "young men" today don't have problems at all. There's a difference between what normal, civilized people have to deal with, the hardships of life, and some millennialoid, self-hating zoomer faggot whining about tfw no gf or whatever.

>>24932
So what does it tell us that you use imageboards?

>>24932
You are a perfect example of the arrogant millennial faggots you spend all day ranting about.

>>24938
Holy fuck boomer shut up.

>>24939
Use your words, retard.

>>24938

>You are a perfect example of the arrogant millennial faggots you spend all day ranting about.

Typical projection. What's next, gonna call me a zoom zoom? Stick to posting on a dead medium 'cause you're scared of people walking down a street, maggot.

>>24939

Millennialoids wish they were boomers, but they'd still be losers then too.

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>>24937

>So what does it tell us that you use imageboards?

I use them to bust balls, to poke fun at you faggots. I love it, too. Performatively offensive, always playing dumb ("NOT ALL IMAGEBOARD USERS!") and acting like just because you don't parrot /pol/ shit that you're not some other kinda loser, whining about "normies" because you're entitled and fragile (comes with the territory of being a millennial, so it's to be expected)...I just find it hard to believe that we went from shit like Woodstock, the Attitude Era, a man on the fucking moon only to end up with a generation so utterly worthless that even fucking Dalits in India would spit on you. You are what's wrong with the world. You coast through life, you do as little as possible, you leech off decent people like me; if you lived in ANY other country other than the US, you'd have starved to death long ago and you know it. Now remember to cope, seethe and remember, you will never own a home and you will never be happy.

>>24986
But you post on them quite a lot, not just a little bit.

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>>25014

I said it only takes a little bit of time to do so. Plus, it's not always me - I've seen plenty of folks mimic my style, either in agreement or to have fun dere, maggle, like I do. See, the thing is, at the end of the day, I don't spend my whole life on here. That's what separates us civilized folks from you terminally online dweebs. You chronically post here because you're intimidated by "normies" (something like picrel) and are scared that you will be confronted for the shit you say. Me? I don't mind if people disagree with me. I don't. It's no skin off my back. I'm not gonna rage that I'm gonna be cancelled for shitting on some such group. I'm not going to live my life in fear. I've posted the same shit I do on here on "normie" sites, and you know what? Never once have been cancelled, never once have been censored. Why? Because at the end of the day, we can agree to disagree. But on imageboards? You're all scared shitless. You hide behind all sorts of copes, but we all know you cling to this obsolete medium because you're intimidated by others. Don't give me this bullshit about how the conversations are better on imageboards when 99 percent of them are as mundane and banal as anywhere else. I just don't get why you millennialoids love to wear "I post unironically on imageboards" as some sorta badge of honor. It's just a website. It's just as much a cesspool as Reddit or Twitter. The gimmick of "just pretending to be retarded lol" got stale in the mid noughties. But please, tell me that the conversations are SO more sophisticated and interesting than anywhere else. Go on. Tell me. Tell me what I can't get on some other millennialoid hugbox. Or you could just be honest, admit you're scared/intimidated of random strangers, admit you have a problem, and grow up?

>But stereotypes exist because pattern recognition!

Okay! So cis white males are all coomers who love to rape kids when they're not shooting them and abuse women. So millennials are all piss poor faggots who don't know how to budget and blow all their money on trivial shit. On and on I could go. See how it all sounds fucking retarded? Then why are you so afraid of some random stranger offline? Is it because you think you're "better" than them because you "get" internet culture? Whoop-dee-fucking-doo, this ain't MENSA, pal.

>>25015
this isn't even funny anymore, honestly

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>>25020

It was never meant to be funny. If you don't like it, don't read it. Don't reply to it. Simple. But I know you faggots, and I know you well. Millennials are so terrified of nonconformity that they can't cope with the idea that anyone thinks differently than them, even if they're long dead. That's why so many of them rely on words like normie, incel, scrote, based, woke, foid, roastie, moid, chud, lib, boomer, zoomer, lolcow, et cetera. And you have to get the last word in, too. Nobody's forcing you to read my shit, to reply to my shit, but yet you have to get a word in to show how "unique" and "special" you are. You need that participation trophy of being considered "based" for "owning" that "tranny" or "roastie" or whatever word you've chosen to dismiss me with. See, in layman's terms, you faggots are like the annoying, spoiled brats crying about some stuffie or whatever and I'm the adult telling you to knock it off. I don't call you an incel. I don't call you a rightoid. I don't call you a cis white male. The millennial is immunized against all dangers: one may call him lazy, deadbeat, loser, jackass, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a millennial and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>25021
How old are you?

>>25025

Old enough.

>>25028
Are you a millennial or are you older than a millennial?

>>25030

I am apparently all sorts of things on here. Anons call me things like boomer, liberal, tranny, millennial, roastie, scrote, etc. I can be whatever you want me to be as long as it suits your narrative.

>>25031
I'd like to hear *your* narrative.

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>>25032

It's that you're all coping and seething that you're pretty much like picrel, and are literally scared of other people for no real reason beyond your own elitist, solipsistic fantasies.

>>25033
What are you like?

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>>25037

As you can see, I am pretty based and bloompilled.