I approve of this post. Thank you for the free education links.

>>389

Here's another one, the stanford links:

http://online.stanford.edu/courses

They give you actuall certs for completing some of them, like the crypto courses.

Seriously fuck corporate school, fuck going into debt just to get a piece of paper and spend all your time boning sluts at the student union pub. You can do this by going to any regular bar

>>389

Derp, I also forget the updated course lectures. Look up the course number you want to take, there will be vids on mit site of the most recent 2012 courses just check the course calendar all the links will be there.

If they aren't, check the 2011 links. That's how I did the Network Security 2011 course, a course MIT charges like $12,000 for.

so how was it you "take" 6.3 and 6.2? i see the intro classes have the lectures and assignments which is awesome bc its just like youre taking the classs, but most of the classes in 6.3 and 6.2 dont have lectures or instruction that i can find i dont understand how to learn the material with just the assignments and or tests.

this is reallly exiting but i dont know how to teach myself outside of the few classes that are the "scholar" classes

Can you provide more detail on starting a company and selling it?

That was a great success story, OP, but I'm broke as fuck.

This deserves a fucking sticky.

>>444
To reiterate what this person said, I think we should make a sticky linking to a Pastebin with all "10/10 quality" /jew/ posts.

a foreign language is all you need. not in america ofc.

For some reason I got really aroused reading all that shit I didn't understand.

I commend OP for his success and determination. But let's face it: you have to have--at least--some talent to actually come up with some sort of innovative software design that 1) works and 2) sells. Most people can't even get around the coding part, so everything else is useless. Also, for people that just don't have natural talent for coding, mathematics etc. then clearly this "method" is going to fail after step 5 or so.

Anyway, bump because there might be people out there who will actually profit from this. IN the mean time, I'll stick to my wage slave road (;_;).

well written post, good links, very encouraging - thanks for taking the time to write this up OP

>>615
This is a great idea

Fucking. Thank you. Based OP.
You inspired me to do something with my life.
Just one question, how long did all of this take for you to do?

Best OP Ever!!

Just popping in to say thanks.

I myself am a uni student and know most of this shit, but sadly suck at coding.

So thanks, OP, now I know what to do next.

B-but there are no jobs I can do ;_;

So why do I need steps 4 and 5 if at the end I need to start a company anyway?

College student here going for a Business Major, mad props OP.

Even though I live in a lower-middle class family I still had to work my ass off to make money because that's what my parents did and they didn't raise no fucking leech.

If you're in a tropical state ( Florida in my case) then the premier manual labor job to get here is landscaping. Get a job with your city ( I did and so far it's paying enough for me to cover my gas and food expenses), find a university or college ( they normally pay the most, especially if it's a private college), or if you have the money start your own landscaping service and go to the classiest neighborhood you can find and mow rich old people's yards( there's a FUCKLOAD of rich old people here so bully for me!)

You will get experience, exercise, and more importantly, money! Sure it may not be what you want to do with your life, but it will give you experience and something you can put on a resume.

>>996

BULL.SHIT.

There are jobs out there for you, the question is if you want to take the time to look for one.

OP is an alpha.

I have a similar story but I was a shit cunt that wasted 10 years of my life not to drugs or crime but just doing nothing, like a drifter.

Now that I've picked up myself, I am pretty much following the save money then get education route, and am now going to be a Financial trader/analyst/adviser.

Whatever deep shit you're in, just need to pick yourself up and change, I can assure you that you didn't waste 10 years of your life like I did.

This is the greatest thread ever OP. Is there a way to reach you? E-Mail?

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>>444 What this niggeh said. Not only should this thread get a sticky, it should also be gold plated.

Why the he'll is this on page 3

>>444
Seconding that sticky request

Saw this thread on 4Chan's /b/ the other day. Really good advice thread, I must say.

You're just going to die anyway so what's the point? Why not just kill myself today and avoid all the work and stress?

I've been an English professor and I've been a landscaper, and I would not say that landscaper is worse! Being active is great, also, following the rhythm of day and night (not going to bed at 3AM), and feeling the seasons pass, sleeping soundly coz you got exercise. . . . I'd get up at 5, be doing some labor by 7 AM, get home at different times, take a nap, be fresh for the evening. . . . Sitting on your ass (literally on your buttocks) for half of your life is itself a degraded quality of life.

>>387

Thank you for posting this. However, I'm still not sure which of these class I should or should not take. Is there a concise list of all the courses relevant to what the OP was talking about?

>>1265
I am sure that the uni has one.

screen capped the shit outta this. This REQUIRES a sticky

????/10 post OP!

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You're welcome.

>>1003
Coming back here after a while, that was my post and this is still freaking amazing!!

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>>435
STEP ONE, GET A JOB YOU USELESS FUCK

>>387
The end of this post should say:
Are you happy with what you are doing?
Yes:
Keep doing it
No:
Learn to do something else

>>1729
Kinda stupid advice.
Not everything you are happy to do would earn you money or would be profitable. Especially if you are trying to not be a poorfag. Shitty and routine job is probably not what would make you happy. You just have to get over it and do what you like in the meantime. Or when you have enough shekels to not give a fuck.

>>1613

hey OP,

I'm curious learning more about this AOSP stuff, as well as SEandroid.

What are some good resources to learn more about this?

>>1772

whoops. not op. =x
nb

COME ON YOU PUSSY MAN UP PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS BE A REAL MAN MAAAN UP BE ALPHA SAY WORDS LIKE FUCK AND SHIT A LOT

Fucking stupid

Waving your big dick around is not advice

Coursera.org now has hundreds of free courses from Algorithms to Discrete Math. If you want to learn how to code properly take MIT 6.001 SICP course. It will take a few months but is well worth it.

There's also codeacademy, udacity and many other free univ classes popping up. Just read a post on HN other day about a homeless guy who taught himself how to build apps http://nypost.com/2013/12/11/homeless-man-learns-to-code-releases-app/

Granted some guy helped him but coding is easy if you take SICP course. All materials are free for it. If you don't like coding do it anyways just to get easy income because thousands of jobs avail. Save your money and go to university to take whatever you want or do your art/music on the side. Nobody is going to help you, you can only help yourself.

going through berkeley's data structures course. started yesterday and i'm on lecture 10

Here is exactly what I did:

First, math. Starting with Pre-Calculus a decent refresher on shit you forgot in highschool, or maybe haven't taken yet. It's easy. https://www.coursera.org/course/precalculus

More math. We need to take Calculus 18.01 or any single variable calculus course so you learn about differential equations. You will use these to refine code you come across in the wild, the first thing I do is look for differential equations the orig software author didn't solve and solve them. Now I've just optimized the fuck out of the program. http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-01-single-variable-calculus-fall-2006/

More math again! Now that we have a solid calculus background time to learn Math for Computer Science. It's easy, actually. http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-042j-mathematics-for-computer-science-fall-2010/

You just need pre-calc to start, then can take any programming class at the same time as doing 18.01 or 6.042

Now let's learn to code.
SICP, is the only choice here. Remember you are learning to code, language doesn't matter. Scheme has no syntax really and you spend the whole time learning about functional programming. You will need this course later for Scala, and it's the best course ever designed. Every sentence matters, every assignment is important so do everything. http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-001-structure-and-interpretation-of-computer-programs-spring-2005/ Those Sussman video lectures are awesome too.

Now you have a real, solid fundamentals of computer science. So let's learn a language you will actually use IRL

Scala complete functional programming course:
https://www.coursera.org/course/progfun note how it lists SICP as a recommended prereq or to learn more about concepts taught in this course.

Take the second Scala course
https://www.coursera.org/course/reactive

I also took 6.005 Elements of Software Construction for Android app building, with scala back ends. http://stellar.mit.edu/S/course/6/ all the lecture notes, reading materials, slides and tests are there for the 2013 class. Probably the best course that exists for "industry" programming though you've already done most of this course in SICP and Scala but lecture notes on version controls, debugging and GUI were awesome.

Congrats you're now a software engineer and you paid $0.00 to get this education, so long as you completed all assignments (the more you code the better) and understood the material. You can get a jr. software dev position anywhere just show them your git or hg repository full of all the software you made for these classes, and shit you made on your own. Starting wages for a zero experience Scala dev is $70/hr

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Thanks for the story OP, it's nice to know what's possible. I've been trying to sort my life out for years but just can't manage. You've inspired me to keep trying.

I'm in the UK, can I still use these websites to get certs or should I look for British alternatives? I have a Canadian passport since my mum was a citizen when I was born if that helps.


I've wasted 10 years too, I really need to get something done.

I dunno what the fucks wrong with me, I'm pretty smart but also an idiot. Like I'm really good at picking things up effortlessly; be it sports, music or computers.

The problem is, as soon as I get good at something I just get bored and drop it after a while. Like I went to college at 15 to do IT, it was too easy so I dropped out. I also have done the same with Digital media and I got into uni and wasted my chance at a sound engineering degree.

Same with jobs, I've done web design, programming & administration/security before when I was 16/17. I've done banking and mortgage advisory, worked in PR, done stunt work for films, bar tending/catering, DJ'd in a nightclub for a year & made music.

Now I'm 25 with no qualifications and the most unbelievable erratic CV ever. No one will hire me for shit because it shows that I never do one thing for long. So I'm poor as fuck and annoyed that I can't seem to make anything last.

Thanks again for the links and the ideas.

>>1849
You've got to be fucking kidding, is that you Walter Mitty??

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>STEP 1 - GET A FUCKING JOB

Dropped.

>>387
how are the chances to start your own company with a degree in economoics ?

I have a problem...my best talent is writing (wining some contests included) and communicating with people, I've also worked as a succesful comercial in the middle of a mental illness and I managed to close a contract every day (shit was tought nonetheless). These are my skills but I don't find any course that is related to them in the pages.
Do you know some page where I can find any free courses related to this? I don't trust corporated systems of teaching and I'm tired of begging money from my parents.
Plz help an anon to form and be successful

Lot's of new resources now.

http://www.mysliderule.com/web-dev
This is a sequence of courses put together to teach you modern web dev. It concentrates on theory and python/django instead of rails but you can easily learn ruby after you learn python.

http://www.buildyourownlisp.com/
This teaches you C, and you make your own c-like Lisp.

http://www.nand2tetris.org/
This teaches you modern computer architecture. It was developed by an IRL jew at an Israeli university because too many CS grads he met didn't know anything about computer arch. Prob one of the best courses I've taken, you just need to know some basic programming from any Comp 101 class or SICP book.

http://commonsware.com/
For $45, you subscribe for a year to this Android book that teaches everything there is to know about Android.

For Math, I've found the best books are one's done by Sheldon Axler (omg another jew!) both his PreCalculus Book and his book "Linear Algerbrae done right" are the best books I've ever read about math. There is a huge push right now to restructure Math classes in North America since we've never actually been taught math. You spend all of highschool learning pointless Trig calculations you never fully understand. His calculus book actually teaches you what real math is, same with the algebrae book.

Of course you don't need math to program, but it helps.

>>1917
Writing the only resources I know about is to read all of George Orwell's advice https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm note the 6 "rules for writers" at the end of that essay. Live by those and you should be fine.

Christopher Hitchens also has a lot of workshops he filmed talking about writing for a living. His advice is "if you feel you NEED to write, instead of want to write, then you'll do OK".

>>387
okay op good post very informative and motivating

what i dont get is the hate for ireland. I didnt think ireland was consodered code monkey standard

>>2059
Taxes there are low, so many companies outsource there.

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>STEP 5 - BUILD A PORTFOLIO

>Now you have the knowledge, prove it to >people. Start a security blog/status.net >and write about whatever 0-day hacks you >found in the Android source code. Write >about game theory, contribute to the Tor >project, or just contract yourself out to >build websites for clients.
>In my case I would modify AOSP for >security, build it with SEandroid and sold >my own devices. This is where your multi >core 32G+ Ram box comes in handy because >building AOSP takes forever otherwise. I >created ultra secure handsets and sold >them on craigslist probably to drug >dealers, but nevertheless no longer needed >to do my old job anymore.

Could somebody go into more detail on building a portfolio? Preferably on the AOSP part? I tried Google but couldn't gind anything really except official Android updates

>>2252
I can't greentext im sorry ahahh

>>2214
its a sticky you tard, not to mention threads hardly ever 404 on /jew/

Damn son, this got me more motivated than anything I've done in the last couple of years as a community college student studying CompSci. Watching a lecture on Computer Science Math right now.

Another important piece of advice: lie to your interviewers. Say that you have more skills than you do (easy to do if it's a techie skill that they don't know), and also (I just thought of this after reading the OP) if you've had long periods of unemployment say you've been doing small time gigs like landscaping, it will make you more employable.

>>387
>the AOSP kernel is fucking ridiculously huge and full of bugs

You mean Linux? Because in all this time reading source code, I've never seen those "bugs" you are claiming AOSP is full of, can you explain better what you mean?

So basically I'm taking the Step one... working everyday for 10 hours a day. I tried to get a mining/oil related job but I had no success whatsoever. Where is the boomtown?

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Holy shit man! This is like a guide on how to succeed in life if you fucked up.

I've been programming for 6 years, first learning by myself, then in Uni. I can honestly say I'm in the top 5-10% range of programmers skill-wise.

Yeah... You won't make 70k$ your first year with an online degree. Even people with Masters in CS generally make on ~50-60k$ their first year on the job market.

It takes about 10 undergrad courses to get a basic understanding of software development and at least 1-2 years MINIUMUM of experience to not be complete shit at it.

It's true you don't NEED a paper, however you need to be either crazily smart or really lucky to get a great idea you can sell.

There's about 3-4% of startups that work alright, 1% of those get bought for huge sums of money.

If you guys want the real fucking steps:

-Get degree online while working freelance part-time.
-Work for a decent size company for a good 4 years.
-Do what the fuck you want.

You should be able to make a living with freelancing then around 35-45k$/y growing by ~5k$/y.

After a good 4 years you'll be making ~60k$/y and on your way to better things.

After 4-6 years you can become Senior Developer, usually comes with a 10k$ bump.

Generally, software developer salaries stop at around 80-90k$, unless you're a specialist or you go on to a Leadership position (Senior Team Leaders can make upwards of 120k$/y).

BTW, learning about new programming languages is secondary to the basic ones (Java and C/C++). If you don't know Java, no Techy HR rep worth his salt is gonna hire you for a Scala job...

Why work when you can get a decent amount from autismbux + huge benefits from free housing to free transport fees?

You can even save up enough to buy nice things or go on a holiday with your girlfriend or whatever.

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>>2660
Cross posting something to do with freelance

>Freelance work is awful in my opinion as you'll be competing with Indians who'll work for pennies and who know more than you because they spend their whole life writing code just to survive. Ruby and Node.js are in right now though.



Go over anxietybux for me?
In my case I have no income, and yet I am Ph D. says on record that I have got epilepsy and depression mood disorder.

>>2731
How to autismvux or anxietybux?

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Dumpster Diving and Computer Programming 101

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>>2771

it's been 2 years.. has anyone made something of themselves?

>>2779
Nah, because ever since this board began and I saw this post I realized I'm truly just lazy. I'd rather just browse the net aimlessly then work.
I understand that its just me being stubborn but I don't really care enough to do anything about it.

>>2791
maybe you could use a dose of psychotherapy...

Where are all the oil jobs?

>>2795
Oil tanked dude. A year ago. Shit's gonna be dead for awhile.

That's the world we live in though, jump in whatever can make you money and when the pond dries up just move on ASAP instead of lamenting.

>>387
Should I sell my vidya/movie/book/toy collection for a jump start?

Сс

Guys dont worry about it. Most programmers are either indians or wannabes. They suck either way.

on Coursera.org, do you have to enroll in the courses? Or are the materials available to everyone so you can just start when you want and go at your own pace?

>>1031
ahaha classic.

is there a program that does this or do you just enjoy using photoshop?

>>2877
Depends on the course. Some are open all year long, others are programmed to take place during specific periods of the year.

+1

Programming is over rated. People form India will under cut your ass.

Also it depends on what type of programming you are going for.

Also Also doing front end web design (just html and css) doesn't pay that well.

Hell, if you just get your A+ cert that can open tech jobs such as working as a computer or network tech for a factory, warehouse, etc (depending on where you live)

Fuck I have a friend that makes $17 an hour working for Apple at home doing tech support and they provide you with all the stuff you need and help if your internet bill + discounts + benefits.

I don't want to do fucking computer science shit. I don't want to do fucking programming. There's got to be another way. I'm tired of the fucking "programmers make big bux d00d!" meme.

>>2894
There's no way in hell I'm ever working with anything related to programming either.
What the hell else could I do, though?
I have a simple job now but it gives me no valuable experience and I have no chance of getting something else. I'd barely get by if I didn't still live with my mom.

>>387
failed at step 2.
Spent all money on hookers.
FML

>>2909
start again

Best thread OP
This instant I want to change my dull life
Other than programming, I'd like to be in agriculture because without food, everyone will be starving.

I'd like to move somewhere else but the money will never be enough because of the weak currency. Is there any cheat sheet to become an immigrant that will work and get a job somewhere in first world?
>my country is no war zone, it just corrupted, even it's democracy but it doesn't look like one because cronies
>jobs are filled with other cheaper immigrant labors that locals can't even compete because these immigrants requires lowest wage with high skills

my savings is 500 in my currency and about 113 USD. (it used to be 3 to 1 USD in 2014). No NEET programs here unlike in first world.

tl;dr;
Good wage other than programming?
How to move out the country with no money?

>>387
I don't know who you are op, but im going to give it a try. I saved the text from this thread like 4 years ago and got lazy from having a decent job and gave up on programming, but im about to kill it and wanted to say thanks

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>>387
>>2941

Me and you anon, we're both going to do this. I came across this chan/thread about 2 years ago by chance and it's time to get off my lazy ass and actually DO IT. I started relearning algebra 2 yesterday, once I have it I'm going to learn pre calculus (I did shit at it in high school) and learn to program concurrently. I will report on my progress in 2 years and let you all know what I've accomplished. Thank you OP, to quote /fit/ WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT!

Glad to see the button work

thanks for sharing this op

shame i'm a fucking idiot though

This thread makes me wonder whether or not I should just drop out of life and become a hobo

In a job interview for an entry level job like fast food how do I explain a long 8-10 year gap without working? I never got a job because I had horrible anxiety with minor autism and I couldn't deal with the pressure of job interviews. I know this isn't a good excuse but that's the truth. Do I tell them the truth?

>>2970
sounds like you qualify for autismbux/anxietybux buckaroo

OP what is your IQ? I tried some of these books and I'm scared I'm not grasping them as fast as would prove practical. You motivate me a lot with your post, thanks.

i like this thread

>>2970
>>2983
AS from Sweden here! My career is nothing to be proud of. But Arbetsförmedlingen (the gubmint's employment agency) did good in my case. They partly funded my two most recent jobs and they do look good in the resumé.

And the best thing is that the jobs "laundered" the money from the gubmint. They may be earmarked, but it doesn't show on the resumé.

And this is not to denigrate OP. But if you can get into a make-job program that will look good on your resumé, do it! Think of it as you're getting your tax money back. No disgrace at all.

BUT, there's another big but out there for you autists: Stay the fuck away from retards. I repeat, stay the fuck away from retards. Retard farms will be the undoing of you.

Because I have a buddy that was about to enter a make-job program. It was some menial tasks in a store and he was pretty much the only non-retard at the job. And "the special division" wore special vests wo that the customers could adjust their expectations accordingly.

I predicted that it would fail because he would have to spend time to prove that he was not a retard every time a customer asked him about something. I told him to stay away from it.

Some time later I was proven right. Exactly right. He, as no sane person should, couldn't take it.

His next make-job will be only with fellow autists and not have any customer contact at all. It might work. And I really hope that his resumé looks better or at least not-shittier.

From my personal experience it is best to be honest about your autism. But I guess that it depends on the work. If I applied at some menial job that's basically a foreign legion, then I could be pretty sure that I would not be the only one with issues. Therefore, it's nothing to talk about.

Just my 2 cents.

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>I WANT TO BE A WIZARD

>>3050
hey this is the real Wizard Guy!

>>387
The recommended budget is so shit. My budget is 70% savings (Vanguard all the way), 25% living expenses, 5% for wasting on shit I don't need. Get serious about your finances or don't even bother working TBH.

>>3054
Er, do you live at your parents in the country with your own garden and livestock for meat? Or do you earn crazy much money?

>>3050

what this guy said

>>3050
Who are you quoting?

this guy knows whats up he has magic brown fingers

>>3061
Roommates and the cheapest groceries money can buy.

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Good Sh*t ya cracka

>>3069
Ok, but don't cheap okt on your Heath, dude.

>>3086
Learn to cook simple shit, buy ingredients cheap instead of ready-made stuff.
Anyway, for anybody who doesn't want to be a programmer but knows English, pick a country, learn that country's language, move there and do translations. In many places you could also teach English on the side, but that makes a pretty shitty sole career (source: I'm doing it, lucked out with a great school, but it doesn't pay enough), so have translation as a backup. Git gud at it and move upwards in your company / move to another company. Learn a third language, too.
Don't fucking learn Chinese, though. Look up the steel salesman story.

>70% of your money goes to rent, food, clothing, your essentials.
lol, if that was only possible.

>>3125
One of the big issues with this budget is that it doesn't look at your income at all. If I make 100k a year, I should not be spending close to 70k a year on essentials.

this looks a lot like guide for someone who actually wants something out of life other than drugs of anhero

>>1429
>>2214
lol

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>>1846
Thanks OP, this is a thread that keeps on giving. You and the mods will be happy to know that I visit this thread periodically and it really is doing good in my life and others. Thank you again!
If you have any updates, I would love to hear it.

Does this still work in 2018?

>>3232
More or less. Doing exactly what OP did? Maybe. Using it as a guide to get you mad dosh? Fuck yeah. I ended up going to step 4, 5 & 6 by joining a trade using the job I got from step 1 to get my foot in the door. Now they're paying my ass to get me a degree and I get a sweet cushy job.

>>3233
Neat, I was kind of worried with how fast everything changes with tech stuff.

man OP I started this in 2017, and while it's not gone exactly as planned in the post, pieces of it have come together. I will report in ever so often to update on my progress but holy shit you inspired me to make something of myself which I am doing....to all the lurkers out here, this shit actually works.

>>2764
True getting job in India is difficult so many go to foreign countries. Old people sit n insufficiently grossily slowly work just to hold their position n the much more capable youth sit at home(part time job here is limited very limited) so basic average person is bachelor . M 19 n jobless (not bachelor yet) if i need to earn i may need to take up call center jobs which I won't prefer(working 10 to 12 hrs for 150$ a month is waste of time i would rather b bachelor with extra knowledge crammed in in extra time ) i m pretty sure in the rat race i m gonna b left behind n trampled upon

>

I started with a criminal record for petty narcotics pos and a 'computer tresspassing' record guaranteeing me unemployment almost everywhere except manual labor. I was also living in a SRO in the worst area you can ever imagine,
excellent news, bro

Based

>>1774
He gave a step by step guide.

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>1774
>3427
>stupid
In less malleable verbiage...
>Waving your big dick around and disingenuously framing it as a step-by-step guide is neither advice nor useful to anyone not in their adolescent stage of life

It's fantastic if you're a slightly undermotivated late-teenager who spent the past half-year of his life smoking weed and lurking IBs before realizing he has to do a thing in order to graduate from the confines of his parentally provided tenancy.

It's quite the other thing if you're an older shut-in NEET who barely even has contact with the outside world despite nonstop attempts at obtaining profitable income. Such a situation is worsened by the addition of actual mental/processing conditions such as lower-functioning autism, severe anxiety, and so on to the mix.

Like I said earlier, if you're some typie fuck who's at the prime of his life anyway, you'll probably get somewhere with this Peterson-tier shitpost. But don't act like it's some revelation from God that is equally applicable to all anons in all situations everywhere when it's blatantly not. lol

>>3434
>NEET
Step 1 nigga

>>2943
It's been a little more than 2 years, but I'll update anyway. My math training wasn't particularly useful, I did get about halfway through calculous; however, even with that the college level programming assignments were too insane for me to understand. So I changed tactics, and starting studying IT. I did about a year an a half at a trade school, then dropped out after getting a couple of certs and a job in a Data Center. I did that for about 6 months and realized I hated all of the pressure that was attached to device uptime, so I studied penetration testing and applied at a few Information Security Jobs. I was able to find one and start at a higher tier and now I'm working my way up from that company while continuing to study pentesting certs. I'll be making 6 figures soon enough, sometimes you have to follow your own path in life.

>>387
I come back to this post every once in a while and sort of stack myself up against it. I was running a dropshipping business for a while but am now in my second year of college for cyber security. It's alright and all but I can tell that some of the info is a little outdated or the teaching methods aren't the best.

Would it be a better idea to strike out on my own without paying for college? I wonder if it would be easier to take courses online like you've outlined here and try to make it somehow? I just feel like college is too slow paced for me I need to be constantly learning

Beautiful thread by the way

>>387
I come back to this post every once in a while and sort of stack myself up against it. I was running a dropshipping business for a while but am now in my second year of college for cyber security. It's alright and all but I can tell that some of the info is a little outdated or the teaching methods aren't the best.

Would it be a better idea to strike out on my own without paying for college? I wonder if it would be easier to take courses online like you've outlined here and try to make it somehow? I just feel like college is too slow paced for me I need to be constantly learning

Beautiful thread by the way

>>387
I come back to this post every once in a while and sort of stack myself up against it. I was running a dropshipping business for a while but am now in my second year of college for cyber security. It's alright and all but I can tell that some of the info is a little outdated or the teaching methods aren't the best.

Would it be a better idea to strike out on my own without paying for college? I wonder if it would be easier to take courses online like you've outlined here and try to make it somehow? I just feel like college is too slow paced for me I need to be constantly learning

Beautiful thread by the way

>>3465
I'm this anon
>>3463

I think you would be better off on your own, the trade school I went to was shit and I wasted so much of my time that would have been better used teaching myself. Go after meme certs to get by the HR wall. Look into elearnsecurity (I'm in the pentesting path myself, even the eJPT has great information) if you want to actually know your shit. The analyst job I got was impressed enough with my actual knowledge that they started me at a higher tier.

so your saying jews are just harder workers then everybody else thats why they own everything?

did all that, and the starting salary was 650 euros per month, maybe will double in 5 years, such is life in a poor country. I rather get back to video editing, at least it's much more enjoyable than coding, and the money is basically the same here.

>>3492
What county? I am in America. This guy, the OP, lived in a bed neighborhood in America, which is something you could not imagine. A living hell. Europe has nothing like inner city America, it is a Crucible.

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>>3434
Don't take people trying to help you with guides has dick waving. It's an anonymous image board anyhow. Not like they're getting any real cred here. It's merely an attempt to help. If someone is more fucked the guide can fix, find help that can fix that someone. Yes an autistic shutin is different then a relaxed teenager. But the advice can still be useful for learning and maybe starting a business when the neet can get himself out of his situation - whether by help or not.

>>3501
*then the guide can fix

I dont know man.
I've allegedly had a shit ton of advantages and I cant make a career work. Sometimes I think theres something genuinely wrong with me.
I dont drink.
I dont smoke.
I dont cut.
I dont beat my girlfriend.
Probably cuz I never had a girlfriend.
Theres gotta be some other reason I keep failing in life. Maybe my brain is fucked up in some way.

But no doctor has ever found anything clinically wrong with me. So I should probably just kill myself.

me dum dum ogre me cannot program
would the advice still stand if i plan to fund a non IT related startup?

>>3505
everyone can program man, but even if you're not into IT the advice should work.. though still consider IT, everyone can program.. especially nowadays.

The pic is funny. Tappin into the cities collective power supply could be hazardous.
Thrifty livin though, so many possibilities.
$2.00 may give one 4 ramen and a bag of peas and carrots. Soup kitchens and the like are definitely fun. We have the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, explain this if you dare. Intense structure, though. Anyway, used to get food from there occasionally, so the side
one could tap on the method to get basic food. A Catholic worker would pull the safe door open and offer very basic food.
Reason for safe window to distribute food to homeless types. One could imagine.
No really, it has been totally fun as fk.

Computer trespassing is real? What did this happen in high school? You’re record should have been sealed if it did. Landscaping, hardscape/construction around here you have to be Mexican to get hired at those jobs just like working boh at any nice restaurant or a chipotle you have to be Mexican to get hired and promoted around here, postal workers you usually have to be black around here and same for driving a metro bus but I would rather have a labor job than a driving job. I try to put aside savings every month but end up having to spend emergency money because of my addictions and I’m homeless. Idk what your 32 gb box is but I have every piece of tech I will need for the next ten years until they come out with hologram VR technology I just need a place to use it, but I love using old tech though, probably because of nostalgia. I have 6 cards I can’t pay off because it costs too much to live even being homeless I spent over $3000 in September and barely got to do anything fun it all went towards gas and meds. I have taken intermediate algebra 7 times since hs and never passed because I don’t want to take his classes over again for college (I dropped out in 10th grade but I was always in sped). Step 5 is too complex for me too understand and I don’t have the attention span to learn it. Sorry I would rather slit my wrist than have to code and program on computers all day in an office for a job. I don’t have a criminal record but I’m going to court next Wednesday for a misdemeanor possession ticket and I really don’t care whether I get one or not it’s not gonna make a difference in my life I will still be homeless it’s pretty much screwed no matter what when youre intellectually disabled but I enjoy my life living in my car I just wish I had a place to cook, shit shower and shave sometimes but I get by pretty well and I’m really good at this now since I’ve been doing it since iwas 19 (I’m 29 now) and I can maintain pretty well but i need money like there’s no tomorrow I will get by no matter what though 👌👍

>>387
I started to achieve success from scratch too. I realized that I needed to stop being afraid, dropped everything and immigrated to Canada. I do not regret my choice as I was able to start a new life in this country. I am grateful for the help and support of immigration consultant edmonton https://www.livinimmigration.ca/ in the immigration process. I think I can become a wealthy and successful person in Canada in the near future. I have found a high paying job and I hope to get citizenship soon

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>>387
>STEP 2 - START SAVING MONEY

>Basic income budget rule is 70/20/10

>70% of your money goes to rent, food, clothing, your essentials.
>20% goes to short term savings, like buying a multi core box with 32G+ ram for compiling programs (we'll get to this later)
>10% goes to long term savings, like hookers in Thailand, emergency savings if you're ever laid off, I dunno.

Ok, I can't argue with that. But I've come up with an interesting way to save money.

Whenever I save money, be it a discount or bottle bills/can recycling. I do like this:

For every penny I save, I make a transfer order between my accounts the next salary/dole day. I also enter some kind of comment, like DiscountMilk 20211201 or RecyclingOwn <date> or RecyclingFound <date>.

Yeah, there's lots of homeless and migrant beggars here. So I don't go on can hunting. Only my own bottles and those I find in the locked recycling/bulky rubbish room goes there.

I use a spreadsheet program to keep tabs on the monthly commit (and to predict my future liquid assets). As of now, it's almost 20% of my net income for December. B-)

I used to do almost the same thing before it was a montly commit. But then I moved the money saved to the savings account the same day of the purchase. I discovered that it didn't really do anything. But the monthly commit just simply werks! This November I bought myself a pair of new winter boots without any hesitation nor regret.

And whenever I have to use a little money from the savings account, I immediately put the same amount of money into the monthly commit and call it OwnLoan <date>.

So, waddaya think? B-)

>>2026
>Writing the only resources I know about is to read all of George Orwell's advice https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm note the 6 "rules for writers" at the end of that essay. Live by those and you should be fine.
It's 404. Can be found here now: https://web.archive.org/web/19970617025842/https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

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>>3603
>tfw was only trying to be helpful
>tfw my advice was suddenly hid
>tfw don't want to delete posts and repost with a new one
Well, I think it's so simple that no one else had found it out before: >>3602
>mfw being so smart

>>3604
nigger

Anons, I did it and so can you. Move to Ukraine. Now I have a hot skinny 18 year old white girlfriend since I left America and have never been happier in my life. Fuck the system, fuck the Jews, fuck the vax, and fuck niggers. Just walk away. I have helped a lot of guys from /pol/ and /soc/ move here. KingOfKyiv#5508 on my mother's fax machine if you want to talk.

Can't get a girlfriend? See no future for yourself or your family among the niggers and mutts? Move to Ukraine. Life is better here!!

I remember stumbling upon this years ago. I really value the information. Sadly, however, I was too lazy to even pursue this. Also every time shit hits the fan - important test or job interview - I get a psychosomatic reaction of just bowel sickness. I think my body is reacting to any effort I make to get back into society.
>>3612
This didn't age well.
Hope you're safe and well, brother.

>>3609
RUDE!

Anyways, I'm keeping the pay forward for discounts & can/bottle recycling bills AND implementing the 10%/20%-saving plan with two extra bank accounts. (A 4th if you count the account for buying a washing machine.)

And in case someone wonders, I'm on medical retirement.

These are some excellent tips for a person who doesn't know what to do in life, and unfortunately, there are many of them. It's great that you're sharing this info, and I'm pretty sure it'll inspire some people to do something with their lives. I became an entrepreneur not so long ago, and you can't even imagine how many problems with documents I had. Of course, templates from https://www.pandadoc.com/partnership-agreement-template/ helped me a lot, and I'm sure if I didn't manage to find something like that, I'd just quit.

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>>3612
>Move to Ukraine
Uh-oh...
https://twitter.com/thedeaddistrict

Such a cool guide actually

This sort of worked for me.

It is rare that an entrepreneur manages to achieve success out of nothing. But of course there are such lucky ones. In any case, I advise all entrepreneurs not to miss a good opportunity to quickly optimize workflow for little money. Visit https://www.securedocsharing.com/ to find out all the info about the document sharing tool and get a demo version.

Wonder if this holds up

How old os too old to do this?
t. 36 oldfag neet

>>3774
How did 18 years pass without you caring to begin? I'm 20 and I'm curious

This anon speaks the truth, i managed to go from neet to a solid job in about a year by learning software development by myself, any retard can learn to code, you don't need math beyond basic arithmetic, and most jobs don't give a fuck about degrees, here's exactly what i did:
1. LEARN ABOUT LINUX
If you don't wanna delete Windows just dual boot or use a Virtual Machine, it'll improve your computer's performance, workflow and it just generally works better for programming, also if you go for a minimalist distro like Arch or Gentoo, the installation process will teach you a fuck ton about how computers work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEnS1zj1DM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSHOb8YU9Gw
2. LEARN HTML AND CSS
You can think of HTML and CSS as the basic building blocks for a wesbite, with HTML being the structure and content and CSS being the styling, it's actually pretty straightforward to learn, you'll grasp it in a few weeks tops, to makes the context stick recreate websites and make fake websites for businesses like restaurants or barbershop (This is important, in a few steps you'll see why):
https://learn.shayhowe.com/
3. LEARN BASIC JAVASCRIPT
If HTML is the structure of a website and CSS is the style, JavaScript is the functionality, this is a bit trickier to grasp but as long as you do all the homework it'll soon click, read The JSWay from 3,2,1.. Code to Write Functions, and do all of the homework:
https://thejsway.net/
4. LEARN GIT AND GITHUB
Now that you've actually made some stuff, you might wanna use GitHub to post it online, this is specially useful to quickly test your code, as well as working on a team which you'll do once you're employed:
https://www.theodinproject.com/lessons/foundations-git-basics
5. LEARN HOW TO DEPLOY YOUR WEBSITES
You wanna be able to host your website, i highly recommend Netlify since it's free and it's literally just drag and drop, once you get clients you want to buy a registrar for them and host your work there, which leads me to..
6. START FREELANCING
What you've learned is pretty much all you need to start earning some money with your skillz, doing this will not only make you learn a lot faster, but it's a great way to show future employers you're not just some schlub programming wannabe, this has multiple steps so i'll break it down into sections:
-6a. Online Presence
You want to make yourself a portfolio and a LinkedIn account, for your portfolio just find some templates, all it needs to do is look pretty for non-programmers, post some of your mock websites but don't make it obvious that it's homework, try to pass them as real projects, as for your LinkedIn, try your best to make it look pretty, it will be your most powerful tool for job searching, also use it to network with other programmers near your area
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG5Sb5WTV_g&list=PL54X5yR8qizsMpvTCqUIEFMeEp-chvcxk
https://html5up.net/
-6b. Search for customers
Tell everyone you know about you being a software developer and wanting to freelance, then make a list with every local business that doesn't have a website and start going to their places and propose them your offer, i don't care if you're the most autistic motherfucker in the world, all you need to know is follow this simple script, and it gets a lot easier the more you do it:
-"Hi, do you have a website where i could see your [insert whatever they do]
-"Ok, another question, is the person in charge of this place avaibale?"
If they say no, ask them when can you find them, and if you have contact info to reach them out, if they say yes, tell them you're a local developer that's been looking for local businesses to offer your services to, and ask them if they're interested in having a meetup to discuss proposal, budget, etc..
The moment you get their info, INMEDIATELY find a template and add their logo/company name/colors/ etc... and then INMEDIATELY try to arrange a meeting, speed is the name of the game here, you don't want your possible client to get stolen by someone else
You'll need some thick skin, you'll get rejected A LOT, but if you push through and visit about 5 places daily, you'll eventually find a client
-6c. Legal stuff
Look for contract templates for your specific country, you might want to add a couple of things, the things you ABSOLUTELY MUST have are as follows:
- A percentage of your pay in advance in order your client wants to rip you off, usually i ask for 30%
- A section that removes responsibility if anything goes wrong with the site, the site might eventually fail for whatever reason, but you don't want them to pin the fault on you
- A section that states you as the rightful owner of the website's rights, this is in case you want to add those projects to your portfolio.
Also, look up how taxes work for freelancing, if they got Capone and Dread Pirate Roberts, they'll get you as well
7. LEARN MORE ADVANCED JAVASCRIPT
Go through Objects and Arrays on The JS Way, learn about Object Oriented Programming, this will be a bit easier since you already have JS foundations mastered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFmuCDHHpwk
https://eloquentjavascript.net/04_data.html
8. LEARN REACT
React is a JavaScript library meant to build UIs and it's your last step towards being a hireable front-end developer since it's one of the most in-demand technologies to learn nowadays, almost every modern website uses it since it allows to do complex shit fairly easily, also you can learn React Native to build mobile apps:
https://legacy.reactjs.org/docs/hello-world.html
9. DO ANOTHER FREELANCE PROJECT APPLYING YOUR NEW KNOWLEDGE
It can be either a paid customer, an open source contribution or a pàssion project, but invest a lot of time in this, since it'll show everything you've learned so far to future employers
10. WRITE YOUR CV AND APPLY TO JOBS
Congrats, you are now a professional Frontend Web Developer, now all you need to do is find a template for your CV and start applying to jobs, make sure to never just click submit, that'll almost guarantee you'll get ignored, find the hiring manager for the company, and send them a message so you can make sure an actual human is reading your CV, apply to about 10 jobs daily using this method:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZf6_ld9u9A
That's it! If you wanna dive in deeper or genuinely fell in love with coding, i would recommend learning backend web dev as well (That's what i'm doing right now), but if this 20 something year old depressed beaner can do it, then surely yall anons living in the most powerful country in the world can do it as well

>>3503
>So I should probably just kill myself.
No. Are you still around?

get a job
start saving
manage your money
find your intellect, side skills etc.
pick a side quest, plan it according previous point
keep on with that and see where it leads

didnt mean to add start saving, just manage your money
rules are for en masses, dont make one unless you have to

>>387
>>1846
unmeasurably based

>>387
>https://status.net/
What happened to that site?

>>387
For me the problem is getting that first job when you are homeless and broke. Most companies won't just hire some random hobo who comes in to them with a resume he made at a library. Especially if that resume indicated that he's over 30 and is lacking a history of employment or volunteering (yes seeking his first job ever in middle age), has not completed high school, doesnt have a clue where his talents lie, has no skills or qualifications, and doesn't even have a license to drive yet. Most entry level jobs require you to apply online, and as a homeless guy you can either lie, provide the address of some shelter you've been at, or give up on applying to those jobs. It's a hard knock life at the absolute bottom, simply acquiring basic documentation (like social insurance) is quite the challenge in itself. What about the fear and anxiety that comes with trying to step into a role of responsibility like employment fo the first time ever? The kind that prevents you from even attempting to apply online and just waste your time with procrastination activities you don't actually enjoy, but serve as a way for your brain to protect you from the possibility of failure (and its consequences).

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Here's some Warren Buffett quotes. Might help.

Here’s a good personal finance program that I’ve (re)discovered:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Money

I’m just happy with it. No more dicking around with spreadsheets. :3