>>49032
i think you're right
sort of a strange gaslighting/prying from all angles if you try to ask for help from others
i don't really know how to raise children properly, and i certainly wouldn't try unless i no longer felt that way

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>>49035
what really pisses me off is how adults treat school as seperate from "the real world", as if though social dynamics are different and that economic or political tides dont affect students.

Or how people treat youth as some osrt of moral disability/diagnosis for personal flaws.

Most people who were very immature in their younger years were like that due to having delinquent tendencies or were self-isolative.

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>>49032 people not wanting to work hard for their own pleasures

I think you can only reasonably expect people to work hard and see no benefit from their labor for so long before they become more realistic and quit working at it. It's not logical to expect that everyone will just keep banging their heads against a wall forever when only 30% of businesses even stand a chance of making it to three years, and of those only a third ever succeed to more than a handful of employees. There are 33 million businesses in USA, and 99% of them are Small Businesses that are merely services, not in innovation. They're restaurants & bars, plumbers and contractors, they don't need to reinvent the wheel, they're invested in things rolling along exactly as they are and simply showing up and skimming some $ off doing work that was already well-defined before them. These are the successful cases. If you are an inventor or innovator, you have a very tough road ahead of you. Past the 1980s, nothing in this country is set up to help you, you and whatever you're going to do are seen as a risk to all those aforementioned people and their financiers. Your businesses will fail over 30x more than everyone elses, and you are almost guaranteed to end your own life in poverty. In the mean time, you'll be ridiculed at every step of the way for every obstacle you face, rejected by your family and spouses for taking the financial risks required to pursue your work, and will almost certainly never have a family because you cannot afford to even date the opposite sex either in time or money. You will live wherever you can find cheap space, renting motel rooms, granny flats, & never own a home, which is a relief bc you couldn't afford or have time to do the maintenance anyway. It is a lonely, tedious, frustrating, unrewarding life, and until you meet another inventor like yourself, everyone will simply think you're a pathetic failure. And then you'll get to meet an endless string of some of the dumbest people you've ever suspected even exist, who fell ass first into money because they got a job working for one of the big companies or industries that pays 20x a normal salary doing some mundane shit any kid right out of college could do, or worse in construction, and you're supposed to be impressed and hold them up as an example bc omg they have the 3 series, and as a mindless consumer there is nothing else to live for but the amassing of rapidly depreciating junk from tomorrows landfills. And that's when you realize, this fucking guy and his litter of offspring is who you're sacrificing your life working on inventions to improve the world for.
Why bother with any of it, when you can just sit and wait, and it'll all be over just as soon anyway.

>>49039
this is the harsh reality of life for thoss under thirty five.
Unfortunately, thats not whats advertised as why adulthood sucks.
They wanna focus only on the established older people whom have a bit of credit card debt caused by their own orospects.

Holy fuck, you can defiantly tell this thread was written by some disheveled sardonic teenage loser with a chip on his shoulder. It's ok lil buddy you will see one day.

>>49057
>You must be a kid because you dare to disagree with my echo chamber sentiment

Just like clock work.
Critcising the cliche contempt for adulthood always ends up with bitter people accusing me of being aosme out of touch child.
Yet, people have no problem downplaying the inconveniences of childhood

Adulthood has far more greater power of choices.
Childhood is essentially slavery.
Most people bemoan adulthood yet have pathological contempt for children.
It makes no sense.

>Despite not being allowed to date, not being appreciated as fellow human beings, not allowed to fend off bullies, not allowed to spice up their wardrobe due to overbearing parents etc.

Sounds like an awfully specific you problem

>>49059
The only reason why you think that is because pop culture has taught you to assume that childhood is purely freedom with no inconveniences.

Adults who voluntarily fucked up their own lives with baby mommas/daddies stuck in dead end jobs and drug abuse to cope are over sympathised and never reminded of their agency of their life course.

People who have a profound disability or are too poor to eat will complain about that instead of complaining about adulthood. They might also be under the illusion that life would be dandy if said hindrances went away.

>>49072
But again, it shows that adulthood isn't really the problem.
People have been psychologically pigeon-holed to think that "adulthood = suffering, childhood = paradise". It really isn't.
It's the sociolegal treatments and impressions that make it seem so.

Also, how would life not be dandy if said people who suffered from poverty or disability were cured?