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John Smith 21/09/24(Fri)05:43 No. 47915
47915

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If this happened to you, how would you respond?

l have studied cell biology for all my life.

2 years ago (late 2019): leave PhD program during my 5th year with my masters since my lab decided to stop working on my research and simply take it for themselves

Since then: no job offers or responses on 1000+ applications. No income.

I have a handle on my situation . But I'm wondering if anyone has any salient advice for me. The advice I get from the people in my life has been completely unconstructive. So I'm seeing what advice bots have.

Something to do while I nurse this tequila.

Background: bachelor's from John's Hopkins university in cell biology. Worked in several cell biology laboratories for free during high school and college. Graduate research was in cancer cell metabolism at a major metropolitan university. After 4 and a half years, laboratory stopped working on my project and after 9 more months I left with master's degree since they made it clear they were going to waste time until I left.

I haven't had a single job offer in my field or outside of it in the two years since. Many (1000+) many job applications.

Also, I have a lot of anecdotes suggesting I'm really smart (chess, memory, avid reader, etc) so me just being stupid is unlikely.

How would you move forward in this situation? Keep in mind my visas have been cancelled due to the coronavirus pandemic should your advice involve movement across international borders.

I'll pick out and buy a nice bottle of liquor for you if I use your advice. How about that as incentive!

Ps. I tried posting this on 4chan/adv and /bant but it says I'm range banned, even though I've never posted on 4chan


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John Smith 21/09/24(Fri)08:01 No. 47916
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>>47915

Dear Steve,

Have you thought of a career change to the wonderful world of selling cheese.

Hope this was halpful

John

I was looking for job applications, for working in a cheese factory, for you and that picture corped up.
You sound like your well educated, maybe you should look for a good in a cheese factory yourself.
This may produce better results for yourself.


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John Smith 21/09/24(Fri)09:08 No. 47917

White-collar jobs are for old-money.
The tragedy was when college was recklessly promoted as the sole rite of passage.
Blue-collar jobs are aplenty yet there's fewer new workers replenishing the old ones. Young people have had their autonomy stripped away since the Industrial Revolution. We went from sending kids to die in coal mines to die in dusty old classrooms from gunshot words of snapped bully victims.
We are seeing adults lose their cognitive/industrial skills bc of the overrated importance of academics.
Most of the white collar jobs we sell to the youth are filled with entry level lackeys.


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John Smith 21/09/24(Fri)17:21 No. 47919

>>47916

If you need someone to prepare reports on the biochemistry of cheese, I'm qualified. Where do I send my resume?

>>47917

What you wrote reads like a description of slavery. Chain-free (or shovel-free) work is for old money. Do you really believe this?


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John Smith 21/09/24(Fri)23:44 No. 47920

>>47919 from >>47916

I'm now actually sorry, I wasn't being very helpful. In my last post.
I was trying and I guess failing at humour. Although we are in different countries thousands of miles from each other, that might have something to do with it. May not.

My point was try thinking of what would be to you out of the box uses for your talents. Although believe you've probably already done that.

Where I live is very different to where live for education and work. Very similair, yet the tiny difference, makes anything I could add useless.

Turly all the best with your continued search.

John


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John Smith 21/09/26(Sun)04:24 No. 47921

>>47915
Well, I've been drinking myself to death for wasting my education on liberal arts, so it's nice to hear the sisyphian turmoil's hitting the STEMs, too. Schadenfreude won't help us, but a little appreciation for the sheer absurdity of it all might. There's an element of lottery to any plans for the future. You made the right moves, put in the time, even going into oncology for extra virtue points-- you're owed something for that. You're probably not stupid, just as unlucky as the rest of us schmucks.

If you care about your research, sack up, spit in their eye, recover what data you can and start over somewhere else. If you're hollow inside because an obviously fucked system decided you get the short end of the stick, burn down the system. Figure out what little striation of the middle class you belong in and let that be enough. Sure, trades are a shortcut to financial stability, but you can make a living in your field without a PhD. You're not going to be compensated enough to make your sacrifice worth it if you just want to be happy.


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John Smith 21/09/27(Mon)01:55 No. 47922

>>47920

Hi John,

I appreciate your response. We joke a lot online and it's fine. No one, even myself, should take it personally. But my post is extremely serious as I haven't had a job suitable to my education or intellect EVER in my life this far. And the whole experience has been lies and theft every step of the way. And like good criminals, the thieves disappear, showing themselves to be very good at hiding when they have finished with you.

Hope the criminals in your far away community are lazier the the criminals over here!


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John Smith 21/09/27(Mon)02:13 No. 47923
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>>47921

>Schadenfreude won't help us, but a >little appreciation for the sheer >absurdity of it all might.


I agree about schadenfeude. But absurdity is a cop out in my opinion. There is a logic to what the people we disagree with do. So to call it absurd is wrong.

As for my project, I paid out of pocket to have my data presented at a major conference in my nations capital, have been presenting my data for years around the world to be honest, so it's fine. The top researchers in my field have been sent the data, which was extensive and polished up by myself that final year my lab/institution did nothing constructive.

I'm not hollow my friend, I'm just fine to be honest. I don't mind what they have done. I even understand why they do it.

It's embarrassing frankly. If you reach out to shake someone's hand in friendship and to stake a future relationship and they take the time piss and shit on their hand before trying to shake your hand, all you can do is distance yourself from them and remark on their inhumanity. If they do this 50 times, all you can do is distance yourself further and study their inhumanity.

We don't have citizens and communities anymore. Just jesters, but I'm not sure who the audience is that they're trying to make laugh


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John Smith 21/09/27(Mon)17:37 No. 47924
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>>47923

Dear steve,

why post your thread on /eh/, unless to, shwo offyou have an education or whatever...

>If you reach out to shake someone's hand in friendship and to stake a future relationship and they take the time piss and shit on their hand before trying to shake your hand, all you can do is distance yourself from them and remark on their inhumanity

how many threads have you read on this board ?

There is a thread just two below thats about buying cheese
Do you now understand the 'get a job in a cheese factory'
Hmm, doutbful
You're wonder why you can't get a job
ah, me less so

John


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John Smith 21/09/28(Tue)07:55 No. 47927

>>47924

Not much to say to this post as it misunderstands a lot. I will say this, fix up your Grammer buddy.


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John Smith 21/09/28(Tue)09:42 No. 47928

>>47927

Saddly I can't, if you understand. Then you know why. I ain't looking for symphony ( that time it was a joke ).

Got friend who got his chem. deg. went to look for work. crap shit like basic lab tech trained monkey.
After failing the frist three he popped round to see me chew the cud and he mentioned what had happened .
I told him he had over prepepped. Done to much research for the job, went back and asked his teachers about each job.
Then I told him to dumb down on the next one as the people interveiwing you. Will be looking at you going this guy is goning to my job in the next five years. He was top of the year/class , had won a small award.

So he dails it back a bit. Gets the next job. Holds that down for couple of years. Then quits to do and gets his masters.
which lead into a job. Leaves there to do doc. get that works for part of the gov. Ain't into it, leave comes back home to look after his Mum. Gets second top job at the frist place he worked.
Bitchs about all the young kids with deg.'s who thought that a dumb bit of paper was going to be their ticket to be intanstly rich and how they do half arsed work that he has to end up doing.

Now he's doing something else with doc. in chemistry.

I was to tired to write all that the frist time.

Hope you undertand what I've written. No worries if you can't. I'm like catoutta of here.

L8r days



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