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Anonymous 17/09/16(Sat)12:54 No. 423 ID: 4bf217

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We owe the Kurds their country.

They've been better allies to the west than Iraq, Iran, Syria, or Turkey ever were or will be. They have bled on the front lines on the same side as US and UN forces in numerous conflicts and all they get in return is further isolation and oppression.

The US should back not only their independence from Iraq, but withdraw from all ties in Turkey and back their independence there as well. We should take steps to ensure the territory they've purged of ISIS in Syria remains theirs, and pressure Iran to give them autonomy.

There's nothing more wrong we could do to these people than tell them they can't be free because we want the oppressive, corrupt, unstable regimes they want out of to stay in place.

Anonymous 17/09/17(Sun)10:05 No. 424 ID: 4d62fc

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Its an eternal stain on the US that Bush told them to rebel because we'd have their back, only to run away like a little bitch the instant they played their hand.

Turkey, on the other hand, has appointed a tyrant to rule, a tyrant who is determined to remain in power until his death, no matter how many citizens has to imprison and kill to maintain it. Upon his death the country will descend into chaos.

That time of chaos would be a great moment for the Kurds seize control of their destiny.

Anonymous 17/09/17(Sun)17:05 No. 425 ID: e895f3

>>424
I honestly cannot fathom what sustains the US-Turkey alliance. It's not like this regime is keeping the islamic fundamentalists at bay like the other scummy Middle-Eastern dictatorships the US was allied with before the Arab Spring fiasco. They provide safe passage for incoming recruits to ISIS, medical care for wounded jihadi fighters, and make a profit from black market sales of Syrian oil--and that's just the stuff we have proof of.

>Bush told them to rebel because we'd have their back
Indeed, such shame. Which reminds me, Obama gave them weapons, training, and hope--only to heel-turn on regime change and the anti-Assad alliance in Syria shortly before the end of his term.

Anonymous 17/09/19(Tue)09:36 No. 426 ID: c56a97

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>>425
Well, you can thank Turkey for being their usual shitheaded selves about Kurds and Russia informing us that they would start firing on US forces if we didn't stop making their #1 arms importer Assad cry.

They still are completely autonomous in Iraq, primarily due to the US letting them do whatever the fuck they wanted in their territory with full logistical support. At this point they have better control over it than the rest of Iraq has over its territory.

Once Erdogan dies in power they'll have their country. It's just going to take a while. Well, assuming the rest of the Turkish military doesn't get tired of his shit, instead of just part of it. Part didn't work.

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