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>>1595
Nah, if you dig around on /civ/ you can find one of his shitshows where he lays that all out (except duplicating GOP talking points, obviously) in a single post.

>>1596
I'm pretty sure you're making that up.

>>1591
Do you double check though?

If someone claims something happened then later deletes it after it's proven false or it's false and the news of it never reaches you, do you still believe what they said happened on twitter?

Our media should be accountable for the news they give us.

>>1596
You're a rabid zealot that will attack anyone whose observations or ideas conflict with your beliefs.
I looked all day yesterday for a term to describe your mentality but couldn't find it.

Ignorant while claiming reason is ignorance.

You're a leftwing nut. Not everyone with a nationalist or conservative viewpoint is a crazy evil Nazi militant taking notes from the NRAGOPBlackWaterContraCheney Corporation. Calm down.

Also, those people aren't me.

>>1599
Sounds more like Donny Two-Scoops, to me.

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>>1598
Not entirely. Though he didn't lay it out in a single post, he did pretty much come out and say it in a single thread. If it's a group of people they're being far more organized than usual at keeping to the same mentally impaired narrative and condescending tone.

Don't believe me? Don't care. You too could have found it in Google if you'd have only lifted a finger to search for it.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=cspan+site%3A7chan.org

>>1601
Whoever that poster is, he also claims to read books.
If that's true, then his opinions are more informed than (I'd say) 60% of the US population--including its president.

Look at what's going on here though: none of us know who each other is, and yet we are debating whose point of view is more or less valid based on identity politics. This is a sick state of affairs; mentally sick.

It is the state of affairs that keeps Republicans and Democrats in power, the reason no progress is ever made in regard to mass shootings, and the basis of every ugly political thing going on in the United States right now: the people cannot debate.

Neither side is willing to accept compromise; neither side is willing to see the other's perspective. Everyone has to win because losing means you have no right to exist. That's wrong.

We need to cast off these overlords and their divisive rhetoric. We can't use one side against the other because both are against us. Vote for the right of the people to organize (peacefully, meaningfully, and constitutionally) against the government--vote to remove Republicans and Democrats from power.

>>1601
Do you realize how crazy you sound?

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>>1603
I know exactly which guy this is because there's only autistic dipshit in /civ/ who keeps telling everyone that Republicans and Democrats are the same so we should all throw our votes away on third parties, even if those candidates don't represent our interests.

Republicans are unwilling to compromise and have been since 2000, when anyone who didn't vote with them was unamerican or with the terrorists or whatever other line of bullshit they came up with that week. The Tea Party solidified this behavior into law.

If Republicans are unwilling to compromise it doesn't mean everyone else is unwilling to compromise too. Compromise means give & take. They change their position so I change my position. The modern GOP doesn't compromise. They demand that they get everything they want or they just sit in their office and draw a salary. Mitch won't bring a bill to the Senate unless it's everything he wants and more.

>>1604
You are talking about politicians.
I am talking about people.

Both sides have manipulated the public to turn it against itself.

So long as three fourths of the people can never agree on anything, the two major parties have control of not only the active government, but the constitution upon which it is based.

>>1603
I do. No one likes to hear the truth when they've been taught to ignore it.

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the problem is you never leave your basement and are basing your opinions on chats you've had in minecraft

you're talking about fantasies not reality

whataboutism is not a valid philosophy no matter how much you want it to be true

>>1606
All you have are identity politics. Everything you know is an abstraction.
Have some respect for yourself, rejoin the human race.

>>1609
Have you not heard me saying this?

These people are animals that must be put down. There will be a civil war to do this. America is a powder keg right now. Stay tuned.

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>>1609
All you have is a weird belief that political groups aren't compromised of people.

Which is why I told you to leave your basement and participate in a campaign. Any campaign. Could be some Libertarian candidate you think is right up your fucking alley.

It will force you to confront these fantasies you've built up in that warmed up burrito you call a brain. Which precisely is why you won't do it. You prefer fantasy to reality.

>>1610
Best to get it over with quick and just kill yourself as soon as shit starts, because you're not going to survive the revolution with the ability to maintain a tight anal seal.

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>>1610
Oh, I'm ready; pic related.

>>1611
I am a campaign, for your right to participate meaningfully in democracy, dipshit. Every time you restate your reasons for surrendering your will to parties too large to have your personal interests in mind, the stink of your bullshit gets a little stronger. You don't have to accept the way things are, you just think you do.

>>1611
Eh.

It'll be your own friends that kill you, dipshit.

>>1612
No sitting this one out I'm afraid.

>>1613
I have to admit I haven't completely given up. I know I probably should, and I'm resigned to the fact that we are living in the era of the dum-dum. Idiocracy is happening now, not in the future but right now. However, I spent most of my life in a United States in ascendancy, and it's a little difficult to watch it all go down the drain.

tl;dr: I'mma vote independent, but if it comes to watching my homeland implode, I'mma make popcorn.

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>>1612
>I am a campaign
Oh, so you're on the ballot in all 50 states are you? You have signature drives to get you on the ballot in all 50 states?

No? Then you're not really a campaign are you? And that means you're at least as idiotic as the people you claim to be smarter than.

Which isn't surprising. You are autistic, after all.

>>1615
I tried, but you want nothing other than Republican dicks in your mouth and Democratic dicks up your ass. Enjoy life as political spit roast.

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>>1616
And yet you won't get off your ass and work for an independent campaign.

You think occasionally posting on a virtually dead website counts as a campaign. It doesn't.

If you don't understand why, you're why the first person to develop a medication for autism is going to become a multi-billionaire overnight.

>>1618
You assume this is all I do, because it is all you do.

Believe it or not, some of us actually participate in democracy rather than just arguing about it and sleepwalking into fascism.

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>>1619
>You assume this is all I do, because it is all you do
I simply read what you wrote in response to my suggestion that you work on an actual campaign.
>I am a campaign

That thing you loathe so much, leaving the house, is required for you to actually participate in a democracy. Which is why I'm pretty damn certain that you're not doing it.

Otherwise you would work on an actual political campaign. But, apparently, in your crazy fucked up world, only republicans and democrats are allowed to have political campaigns, therefore you won't do it.

Please, for the love of fucking god, see a goddamn psychologist and work out whatever weird fucking mental disease you have before you end up in a clock tower shooting at republicans and democrats.

>>1613
Wow, you must have some really shitty friends if you expect them to kill you.

Just how bad is it getting in those red states? Are your welfare-run trailer parks going feral?

>>1620
You already lost, bro.

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>>1634
>You already lost
Whatever you say, Vlad.

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>>1634
The internet doesn't work the way you think it works.

>>1637
You must be talking about the Internet Debate Miracle: no one ever has to lose, you just keep trolling drolling on like your fallacious arguments, endless whataboutisms and circular reasoning are holding up your point of view.

I get it, just pointing out that >>1620 did lose; probably loses a lot, has lost the same argument several times before right here on this board, and is a loser.

Not that I expect him to recognize this fact.

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>>1638
You seem to feel very sure about yourself.

Do you have a hard time understanding other people's points of view?

>>1639
No.

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>>1640
This thread and the many, many, many others like it indicate otherwise.

>>1644
They indicate that you fail.

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>>1645
The ironic thing is every time you think you're being witty you're posting evidence of your disorder.

You don't believe in Libertarianism yet you vote for Libertarian candidates. When its pointed out that you're not voting for candidates who represent your interests, you insist that you're voting for people who represent your interests. Because they represent "anybody else."

That's how Trump because president you know. He represents the "anybody else" you think is your mythical solution.

Your plan is full of flaws, yet you're unable to grasp anyone else's point of view. Only your point of view is valid. Everyone else's views are invalid. You don't even try to explain why anyone else's views are incorrect. You just repeat what you already wrote like somehow this time it's going to be absolutely correct.

Notice how I'm explaining why your point of view is wrong. I'm not just repeating what I already wrote. This is how people with normal functioning brains have a discussion. I realize you're completely unfamiliar with the concept but that's why you should go back in therapy.

>>1650
>He represents the "anybody else" you think is your mythical solution.
No he does not. He marketed himself this way, and enough people were dumb enough to buy it that it got him elected, but it was never the truth. He does not get to call himself an "outsider" while also bragging about how many politicians on both sides he has given money to over the years. He has friends in politics and big business all over the world. He is the furthest thing from an outsider.

Gary Johnson represented my interests in the 2016 campaign: have a president that isn't a Republican or a Democrat for the first time in over a century. It helped that, unlike most of the other third parties available at the time, at least the Libertarian platform was fleshed out enough to imagine they had a chance of running the country with a degree of competence. On top of that, having a third party president (knowing congress will still be mostly Republican and Democrat, because of course change takes time) is the only way to restore the system of checks and balances. The president isn't supposed to be deciding what congress does; the constitution very clearly spells out that it is the other way around.

>anyone else's point of view
Your point of view is that we have to maintain the status quo, because this is the way things are and have been since your great grandfather was a baby, and change is too hard.

Fuck that. Fuck you. Change is hard? Deal with it. The status quo has failed the American people. How many recessions will it take? How many inconsequential foriegn wars? How many mass shootings? How much homelessness? At what degree of class division will you realize they're playing you?

These parties have divided us beyond the point that we could ever exercise our constitutional right to amend the constitution by a 3/4ths referendum. That's not by accident; the people have been divided and conquered.

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>>1652
>Your point of view is that we have to maintain the status quo
Jane, you ignorant slut.

I told you to leave your parents basement and work for an independent campaign.

If you think I can say that and believe
>we have to maintain the status quo
then you are seriously mentally ill and should be under the care of a medical professional.

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>>1652
>Gary Johnson represented my interests in the 2016 campaign: have a president that isn't a Republican or a Democrat for the first time in over a century.
So, in other words, you're a member the most simplistic and idiotic of all voting blocs: The Single Issue Voter.

You're exactly like an Evangelical and Fundamentalist Christians who voted for Trump, even though he's abhorrent to every value they hold dear, because they thought he'd overturn Roe v. Wade.

You're afflicted with the exact same mental disease as they are. I suggest you start attending megachurch sessions, you'll find a lot of like-minded simpletons.

>>1663
>You're exactly like an Evangelical and Fundamentalist Christians who voted for Trump, even though he's abhorrent to every value they hold dear, because they thought he'd overturn Roe v. Wade.

Did he not? Kavanaugh is on the bench.

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>>1664
>Did he not? Kavanaugh is on the bench.
Kavanaugh knows how to play the game.

If they overturn Roe v. Wade conservatives can't fundraise off it anymore.

Similar to how if they actually made homosexuality illegal they couldn't fundraise off it anymore. Instead they made it completely legal and let the outrage grow.

Single issue voters are the easiest marks.

>>1666
Pretty good point, but why would kavanaugh care about conservative fund raising?

He's been appointed a justice for life.

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>>1668
Nonsense, he can be impeached and removed.

Once gerrymandering and voter suppression goes into full effect after 2020, GOP majorities in congress will ensure SCOTUS jumps exactly how high they want.

>>1669
Effectively they already have. Drumpf has already replaced two justices in his first term, and is prepared to go into a second still holding the Senate. If he replaces another judge for life, we're facing a century of white supremacy, mysogyny, xenophobia, and rabid conservativism from the keepers of our Constitutional law.

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>>1671
The bright side is that GOP members are leaving the party rather than be complicit with turning the US into Russia. They've already lost 2 senators, more than a few representatives, and countless voters.

They're not lifetime appointments if they can be removed from the bench. It's happened before, it can happen again.

The Trump-At-All-Costs-Party is shrinking, not expanding.

But look on the bright side. We could have had 8 years of people shrieking about emails and cancer and pizza basements.

>>1672
>It's happened before, it can happen again.

No, it hasn't.

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>>1673
The House impeached Samuel Chase. The Senate failed to convict him. If it had, he would have been removed from the bench.

That's why Abe Fortas resigned rather than face impeachment, because he knew he wouldn't survive the process.

That means they're not lifetime appointments.

>>1675
Right... So it's never happened before.

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>>1676
Pika Pika

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>>1676
Right... so they don't have a lifetime appointment.

What the fuck about this current state of government says what happened before has any bearing on what is currently happening and will happen if the GOP remains in power?

>>1678
Nothing has changed, except the president is a fool.
That is literally the only thing that has changed.
People are disagreeing and freaking out over current events because nobody has a life anymore.

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>>1680
>Nothing has changed
Ah, yes, the "I live in a cave and haven't been outside for 2 years" theory.

A huge recession is about to start, currently estimated to fully drop off a cliff in April or May. Companies are laying people off to prepare for it.

Go back into your cave, roll that rock over the entrance, and don't come out for at least a couple more years. It's gonna be an ugly one, and perhaps the last one for all of western civilization if the stupid orange man with tiny hands is still in charge come 2021.

>>1681
I've been outside. Everyone seems to be getting along fine and the world keeps on turning.

I only ever hear about our impending doom online, which leads me to believe that the people who propagate these ideologies are either disconnected from society or trolling gullible users.

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>>1682
>either disconnected from society or trolling gullible users
Not mutually exclusive.

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>>1682
You might want to check in on economic forecasts once in a while.

Unless you think they're controlled by The Joos