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>>1500
>source
And this is where I post information that's already widely been disseminated and is public knowledge to everyone except some guy living in an unheated shack in Russia, you argue that they're just propaganda created by the enemy of the american people then drink another jug of horse piss and smile at the fantasy of having finally won an argument on the internet.

>>1502
Mkay. So, a deposition from one lawyer in 1992 says their firm tried to have two lawyers present during meetings with Trump so he couldn't say he didn't remember the meeting?

That's not calling him a liar. Also, so the fuck what you retard? This does not mean he does this with every lawyer he's ever had/has.

Im serious you're delusional. Where's the one where he thinks he's a billionaire?

Post the link from buzzfeed, you worthless faggot.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3120638-1992-Bankruptcy-Courty-NJ-Trump-Plaza-Associates.html#document/p58

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>>1504
So are you stuck in a nursing home and not very good with The Computer? This link will show you how to find information.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump+worth+changes+depending+on+mood

Change those instructions a bit and you can find out virtually anything.

I must warn you though, if you come across something involving the pictured guy, ignore it - he's a known CIA agent who spreads falsehoods.

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>>1504
>Post the link from buzzfeed, you worthless faggot.
>>1440
>You: Doubt those sources, demands sources that you trust

>>1506
Are you kidding?

The media is so biased either conservative or liberal, I can barely read a news story without someone's fucking opinion stuck in there like I give a shit.

I can really only really watch cspan or read payment gatewayed economic analysis websites.

You people are wallowing in ignorance and vicarious political high school drama.

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>>1507
At this point I'm wondering if you've ever undergone enough psychiatric and psychological analysis to find out all the things that are wrong with you. You could help humanity by charting out the ways a human being can slip into a combination of madness and stupidity.

>watch
Screaming at your CRT TV every time someone contradicts your confirmation bias doesn't count as watching.

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>>1507
>biased
The problem is what you think is bias is actually cognitive dissonance, which kicks in every time you're exposed to things outside the careful little bubble you've created for yourself.

>nothing of value will come from drumming this up again
If even trying fucks with the Chinese government then it's worth it.

>>1511
China has the same problem the Republican Party does. You can convince a bunch of slackjawed idiots that your distorted version of history is correct, but eventually those idiots are going to go outside their sewing circle and talk to normal everyday people. Eventually those pangs of "what ifs" will drive them to uncover the reality you've been hiding from them.

Though hiding isn't exactly the right word when you punish anyone who's exposed to the word "Tianamen Square." Why would they care so much about a lie?

>>1512
They don't have quite the same problem. The Republican party faces an uninformed public that remains uninformed by choice, so their mission is to make sure that public remains disinterested and distrusts sources of information that may contradict the party line. The communist party of China's control of information in and out of the country is effectively absolute; their populace does not have alternatives.
>Eventually those pangs of "what ifs" will drive them to uncover the reality you've been hiding from them.
So what happens, is that people who come back from overseas adventures with westernized points of view are distrusted; if they express their views loudly they may even be outed as 'social traitors' (not legal as far as I know, but enough to get you a kangaroo court trip to 'reeducation' camp). When they do make the evening news, while the rest of the world sees a freedom fighter and a hero; all the Chinese hear is "condemned, social traitor; attempted to [insert heinous act of treason here]" and an op-ed about how this is yet another example of an intelligent, young Chinese artist, business person, whatever, who was corrupted by foreign, colonizing ideology.

No matter how many points we give ourselves, only China wins in China.

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>>1505
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>>1514
Hey I can do that too!

>>1464
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>>1490

And that's why we know you're an idiot.

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>>1514
Thats right, they're all Dave. Shhh. Shhh. There, there. Take the pills. They're good for you.

Filthy fucking chinks. Their government will fall.

>>1464
David, your gook overlords are not long for this world.

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>>1537
Those are both me that is correct.

The first post is a response to several similar posts that warranted the same answer.
Paraphrase:
Several people itt acquire their worldview by reading articles written people with no knowledge or interest in the subject matter.

The second post is saying David is unmistakably the OP as he loves gooks, lives in gookland, travels to chinkland regularly, is a communist, and dates a commie chink from chinkland.

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>>1539
You lying piece of shit, one of those is me.

>>1546
Yeah, yeah. Keep lying, liar.

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>>1546
There are only two people in his crazy little world.
If he likes a post, he assumes one of his personalities made it; if he doesn't like a post, well, you know...

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>>1550
This sounds about right.

>>1552

She wasn't able to opt out of medicare, you know.

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>>1607
She could have given the money away to charity. Instead she kept it. Because the only thing she cared about was money.

That's why nobody cried at her funeral.

>>1608
I didn't think medicare is a cash-in-hand sort of deal like that. You're talking about turning government subsidies into liquid assets to be redistributed. Only way I can imagine doing that is to sell your meds on the black market.

If that's what you're talking about then I suppose I agree. I very much support old people selling their subsidized meds on the black market; but I don't care what they do with the money.

>>1617
Medicare covers health care. She was notified about her health care costs and the expenses that Medicare covered. She could have then turned around and donated, out of her own pocket, to a charity the same amount of money. So government pays $80 for her insulin, she writes a check to a charity for $80.

But it's not like she had to go to a participating medicare provider. She could have gone to wherever she wanted and paid for it all out of pocket. But she didn't do that either.

Because, ultimately, she was as morally bankrupt as the philosophy she espoused.

>>1621
>ultimately, she was as morally bankrupt as the philosophy she espoused
Bankrupt, or inept? I find people who endorse her are looking for an excuse to be morally bankrupt because they are morally incompetent. Knowing right from wrong is hard when you live by reptilian instinct alone; her "philosophy" lets people with this condition ignore the difference and yet pretend to be enlightened.

Read a book

https://www.amazon.com/Culture-Politics-China-Anatomy-Tiananmen/dp/1412807344

>>1635
Don't save her. She don't want to be saved. Don't save her. She don't want to be saved. Don't save her. She don't want to be saved.

>>1692
Donna Noble has left the Library. Donna Noble has been saved.

>>1475
I just saw something related to this. A fellow got fired for posting a meme about shitting while on the clock on fb. The consumer backlash was supposedly brutal.

>>1464
>Nothing of value will come from drumming this up again.

Keeping the history alive is never wrong.

>>1730
That I agree with. It should be in the history books. We need to know the bad things humanity has done so we can do better in the future.

Just saying it's a a waste of time to try to shame the Communist Party of China into this philosophy. Firstly, they are utterly immune to shame, and secondly, they know the rest of the world doesn't care enough to enact a total embargo of their country until they renounce power, which is the only way to fix the changes they've made to their history and undo the propaganda education three generations of their people have grown up in.

If we were as serious about stopping crimes against humanity in China as it is about enforcing its agenda on the world, we'd have cut them off in 1989.

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>>1732
It is in the history books. Just not the history books in China. Because anyone there who reads about the atrocities ends up in a camp where they're worked & starved to death.

>>1733
Exactly, and no amount of other countries crying about it will ever change that.

>>1734
Yeah, that's what Germany thought.

>>1735
Full scale shooting war with China then?

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>>1736
1) Give North Korea one last push to topple over and implode
2) Flood China with starving unskilled North Korean immigrants
3) Convince EU to join the US in a China embargo
4) Wait for the Hong Kong rebellion to extend to the mainland
5) ???
6) Profit!

>>1739
>1) Give North Korea one last push to topple over and implode
Maybe, but sanctions haven't toppled it for decades, who's to say they'll start working any time soon?
>2) Flood China with starving unskilled North Korean immigrants
They will put them on trucks, set them on fire, and roll them down a hill back into the DPRK; no joke.
>3) Convince EU to join the US in a China embargo
Probably not though, yeah? Besides, China's bought out enough territory across Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, and Oceania to survive rather comfortably without the west. That's what the whole "Belt and Road" initiative is about.
>4) Wait for the Hong Kong rebellion to extend to the mainland
The entire population of Hong Kong will be killed before that happens.
>5) ???
This we can agree on.
>6) Profit!
World War III?

It took World War II to stop what the Nazis were doing to Germany, and they were no where near as far along as what the CCP has done with China. Also, we won the war in Europe largely through attrition; which will not help us against China's 2.18 million PLA soldiers.

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>>1741
>The entire population of Hong Kong will be killed before that happens
Thanks to knowledge of what China has done to Tibet in the past and is doing to the Uighurs in the present, Hong Kong has adopted a fatalistic approach in their fight for democracy. The minute they stop fighting China is the minute they disappear and are murdered, so there's literally no point in stopping. When faced with the very real prospect of genocide no cost becomes too great to pay.

China will have to murder everyone in HK to make them stop at this point. And if that happens the EU will most certainly destroy what little remains of their economy.

At which point they'll stop providing economic aid to NK and that regime will topple.

I look forward to seeing Chinese people putting Xi and the rest of the CCP on spits and carve them up like roast hogs to feed their starving children.

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>>1743
>When faced with the very real prospect of genocide no cost becomes too great to pay.
True, and they may very well fight down to the last man, woman, or child. Remember the martyrs.

>the EU will most certainly destroy what little remains of their economy
I'm not sure where you get your information about China's economy, but it is far from any position of weakness at the moment. China is, at this very moment, developing infrastructure in 126 countries with the cooperation of 29 international organizations, and putting them into crippling debt while it buys up seaports worldwide. China will soon own all oceanic and overland trade routes across or around Eurasia, Africa, half of the Atlantic, and most of South an Central America.

Even if the EU and the US were to embargo China, it would be decades before the rich and powerful their even noticed. Nothing short of a *global* embargo is going to affect their economy's momentum.

>At which point they'll stop providing economic aid to NK and that regime will topple
Nah, Best Korea is going to be Best Korea until the Kim family has no living heirs. They aren't afraid to let as many people starve to death as required for the beloved leader and his inner circle to get fat, and the people won't stand against their beloved leader. It will come down to three guys around a table, fighting over who gets to feed the last sausage to the last Kim heir, which he will eat while he watches them die.

>putting Xi and the rest of the CCP on spits
You're talking about their heroes. The people of mainland China see the party as their salvation, because that is what they have been taught for three generations.

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>>1745
>You're talking about their heroes. The people of mainland China see the party as their salvation, because that is what they have been taught for three generations.
If the mainland was as uniform as you say then there would be no need for political reeducation centers which are overflowing with prisoners being starved to death.

The mainland isn't nearly as uniform as the rich asshole bootlickers they allow to travel to overseas educational institutions would have you believe. Most of them are related to CCP members and stand to personally benefit from the corruption of the regime.

The Chinese people know what's going on and has gone on thanks to the wonder of VPN, they just don't want to speak out and have their entire family sent to a camp to die. They know their country is rotten and only getting worse, with Xi and the CCP looting the country for their personal benefit, at the expense of average citizens.

Like in Russia, eventually there will be a tipping point where the average citizen gets fed up with the bullshit. Putin and Xi are both looting their countries for the same reason: rainy day funds for when they're removed from power.

>>1765
>there would be no need for political reeducation centers which are overflowing with prisoners being starved to death
I don't think you understand how effective starving large portions of your population to death can be. Those people are dead, ie they won't be opposing anything anymore. The people who are not dead are raised on constant propaganda. If it doesn't work on someone, they die. See how this works?

>rich asshole bootlickers they allow to travel to overseas
Go to China and meet some poor people. The poor are the most ardent supporters of the party. It's the rich who can travel who are in the most danger of being arrested for treason, because the government knows they are the most exposed to western ideology. Case in point: rich Chinese want foreign good (American cars, European furniture, Japanese tech, etc); poor Chinese distrust products that aren't made in China (they think the outside world makes shoddy, unreliable products filled with spyware).

>thanks to the wonder of VPN
Stop thinking your way of life is representative of a global standard.

1. China's millennial generation is 1000% more helpless with technology than the West's. If they do not work in or study IT, they barely comprehend how to put a plug in a socket without starting a fire; young people in China are, by and large, not using VPN. It's a safe bet old people in China have no more idea what a VPN is than old people in the west.

2. Every piece of internet-connected technology made for sale in China opts-in to the Great Firewall. Every PC, every phone, every wifi-connected teapot and social media website is hardwired and hardcoded to give the government access to everything you do with it.

>Xi and the CCP looting the country for their personal benefit
In China, Xi is a national hero for fighting corruption. He brought down a number of his fellow politicians from power by exposing disgraceful scandals. No one conceives that the charges may have been false, or that he was simply removing opponents, because they were found guilty by the party--which is known to have the best interest of the people at heart.

>Like in Russia, eventually there will be a tipping point
WTF are you even talking about? Was there a counter-revolution in Russia that no one but you ever heard of? Let's get this straight: The people got fed up with the Czar, so they had a communist revolution. Then the communists built the USSR by exploiting the people and resources of Russia and every country on its borders; the Cold War left the USSR economically unsustainable and it collapsed. Putin has been in power since the year 2000 and is still in power... hmm.. no counter-revolution there....

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>>1778
So, let me get this straight...

China is incredibly prosperous and only increasing in prosperity... despite massive increases in the rate of defaults in the most prosperous regions in the country over the past year.

The Chinese have no way of using VPNs to bypass the great firewall of China, despite North Koreans, an arguably far less connected and more isolated society, having widespread access to it in border regions close enough to access cellular towers in neighboring countries.

The minority of citizens captured and starved to death represent the majority of citizens in the country.

Are you sure you're not getting paid to post pro-Chinese propaganda here? It's like you don't even keep up on current events and just live in a cave reading conspiracy theories about how much America sucks.

Also, you probably should try talking to the Chinese students who are visiting America about Tienanmen Square before you rush to judge them on how they love western society. After that ask them how they feel about the destruction of the Tibetan people. I suspect you have never actually talked to a student are are just basing your opinions on some nonsense you read online, which would make sense since nearly everything you've written here is at least 10 years out of date.

Also, all those properties you claim will yield incredible benefits to China? They're property of Xi Jinping, all profits from them flow into accounts controlled by himself and his family. It's hard for China to prosper when their wealth is being squandered by the Pillsbury doughboy and his bastard progeny.

>>1780
>China is incredibly prosperous and only increasing in prosperity... despite massive increases in the rate of defaults in the most prosperous regions in the country over the past year.
It turns out that money is a Ponzi scheme and China is very good at playing it. They turn failing markets into profitable bubbles, it's what they do.

>The Chinese have no way of using VPNs
Take your fucking adderall, no one said that. Most of them aren't using VPN; whether or not they could. Deep breath, now repeat: "May way of life is not a template for the world."

>The minority of citizens captured and starved to death represent the majority of citizens in the country.
This bot has the reading capacity of a second grader with Down's syndrome. The dead represent no one; they are dead. The survivors are alive because they aren't supporting whatever got the dead ones killed.

>Also, you probably should try talking to
ITT: compare your e-peens by pretending you know more about chinese people than a stranger on the internet.

How is it anti-Chinese to criticize an organization that has destroyed Chinese Culture and killed millions of Chinese People?

>>1852
It isn't. However that organization owns China, and decided that it is. Furthermore, what was going on last June was a desperate attempt by the west to drum up, without discernment, anti-CCP and anti-Chinese sentiment for the purpose of getting certain people elected and passing certain laws. It didn't work, as predicted.

Fortunately for all those people, a global pandemic broke out from China and now they really get to abuse the public outrage to manipulate the vote.

Keep in mind, no one plays hardball against China. Drumpf will be back to making deals as soon as the election is done and corona blows over; no one is going to intervene in Hong Kong, Macau just banned commemorating the Tianamen Square Massacre because that's what granddaddy Xi wants, the People's Army is openly performing exercises for the inevitable invasion of Taiwan and has already announced concrete plans to start annexing its islands, and every country and company with an investment there is kowtowing to the CCP because money.

>clear visual evidence
>IT DIDN'T HAPPEN

thx chinabot

>>1858
We don't have pictures of bodies in the square, although we do have pictures of bodies around the square . I admit it's a moot point, but the CCP embraces this technicality. Whether it's the case that they confiscated every roll of film with pictures from the inside, then dragged the bodies out and cleaned up the blood before noon, or some other case, their point of view is that no massacre occured (inside Tianamen square). I'm not saying I like it, or that I agree, but we have to come to terms with the fact that the CCP is never going back on their narrative. The best we can do is keep it in our history books for as long as we don't use a Chinese company to publish them. We'll never get an apology, we'll never inspire a revolution, none of the things people want out of commemorating this tragedy will ever come. End of story.

Now we're faced with its secomd coming, and we're just going to let it happen again. What's the US doing for Hong Kong? Revoking it's special status, potentially ddcimating its financial market. That's punishing Hong Kong for losing to the CCP. Believe me, they don't give one shit about Hong Kong's economy. For the CCP, it's just one more toxic remnant of the colonial era to be stamped out and erased from history. Hong Kong isn't as important to them as it is to us: they know, even if they murder half its population, business as usual will come back in a few years and there's plenty of finance in Beijing, Shanghai, and Macau.

Hating on China achieves nothing, because we never really hold them to account. By which I mean we haven't booted them out of the UN and performed a direct, military intervention to exterminate the CCP--that is the only way we win.

>>1743
This didn't age well.

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Jews were involved in the creation of modern China.